Happy Face 29 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Not sure average injury lengths are readily available. Got me wondering about total/average first team appearances in a squad, or outside the top 11 players in a squad though. To be continued.... Compared us with Everton. Just as a club that have consistently finished top half without investment. So they have more experience, but it's even more attributable to their 11 players with most appearances under their belt than ours is. Outside of those first 11, our back up players have more experience...and we have more of them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Not sure average injury lengths are readily available. Got me wondering about total/average first team appearances in a squad, or outside the top 11 players in a squad though. To be continued.... Good idea, you could then apply it to various key players in our first 11 and outside the 11, their average appearances last year, in 11/12 and then make some sort of judgement over performance based on expected appearances this year. This has legs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ozil deal done to Arsenal according to John Cross of the Mirror. Can't wait to see him in the league. Such a fun player to watch. Kaka back to Milan on a 2 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Good idea, you could then apply it to various key players in our first 11 and outside the 11, their average appearances last year, in 11/12 and then make some sort of judgement over performance based on expected appearances this year. This has legs.... THIS IS YOUR ARTICLE, HF!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 What period does that data cover HF? 157 games per player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 What period does that data cover HF? 157 games per player? I've totalled all career appearances in first teams anywhere in the world.... For context.... NUFC Colo 385 Jonas 371 Shola 294 Cisse 282 Gouffran 273 Williamson 267 Cabaye 251 Debuchy 250 R Taylor 234 Sissoko 207 Mbiwa 203 S Taylor 192 Ben Arfa 179 Remy 173 Tiote 163 Elliot 146 Anita 132 Marveaux 132 Krul 120 Obertan 120 Santon 108 Amalfitano 80 Gosling 60 Haidara 50 Tavernier 45 Dummet 41 Bigirimana 39 Sammy 30 Good 28 Vuckic 16 Campbell 4 EFC Distin 532 Jagielka 436 Howard 413 Baines 347 Osman 316 Pienaar 309 Kone 296 Heitinga 294 Hibbert 259 Alcaraz 248 Naismith 233 Jelavic 227 Mirallas 211 Fellaini 205 Coleman 148 Anichebe 131 Gibson 117 Deulofeu 71 Oviedo 66 Gueye 58 Robles 51 Vellios 44 Garbutt 34 Barkley 33 Stones 24 Duffy 24 Kennedy 14 Lundstram 14 McAleny 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Arsenal now trying for Ba on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 We have very similar wage bills too. Our most recent wage bill was £64.1m. Everton was £63.4m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 We have very similar wage bills too. Our most recent wage bill was £64.1m. Everton was £63.4m. You need to determine the best 11 for the club, otherwise you dont count the impact of injury on the first 11. If Ben Arfa is injured all season and Obertan plays all 38 games, Obertan looks like a first 11 player by ranking which is not the case. This is quite hard for fans of other clubs, but even for a fan there might be a disagreement and it may depend on opposition. You then count the number of (premier league) appearances of the best 11s of the clubs. As you are counting for the 'best 11s' it doesnt matter if you use total or average as the denominator is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) Anyone watching the feed from Real Madrid? I'm surprised how many people have turned out to see Bale's reveal. There are thousands! Edited September 2, 2013 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Anyone watching the fee from Real Madrid? I'm surprised how many people have turned out to see Bale's reveal. There are thousands! @danroan21m About 20,000 fans here for £300k/week Bale. Surprising on a working Monday? This is Spain remember. Youth unemployment 56% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 You need to determine the best 11 for the club, otherwise you dont count the impact of injury on the first 11. If Ben Arfa is injured all season and Obertan plays all 38 games, Obertan looks like a first 11 player by ranking which is not the case. This is quite hard for fans of other clubs, but even for a fan there might be a disagreement and it may depend on opposition. You then count the number of (premier league) appearances of the best 11s of the clubs. As you are counting for the 'best 11s' it doesnt matter if you use total or average as the denominator is the same. Get your abacus out then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 @danroan21m About 20,000 fans here for £300k/week Bale. Surprising on a working Monday? This is Spain remember. Youth unemployment 56% 20k... mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 50 million Euros agreed for Ozil to go to Arsenal apparently. Ozil in the Premier League man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 For all I think the Transfer Window system is a bad thing, it does keep you interested. I can't remember the last time we had a good last day of the window though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17251 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 James Pearce ✔ @Pearcesport I'm told Mike Ashley let Cabaye listen to phone negotiations last week + he heard Arsenal say: "25 million a lot for a reserve" #moodchanger 12:10 PM - 2 Sep 2013 259 Retweets 20 favorites Reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 For all I think the Transfer Window system is a bad thing, it does keep you interested. I can't remember the last time we had a good last day of the window though. SIBIERSKI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 50 million Euros agreed for Ozil to go to Arsenal apparently. Ozil in the Premier League man. My jealousy is overriding any excitement at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 One coming in tonight. No idea who it is....Ideally an attacking mf or a striker. Toes crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 James Pearce ✔ @Pearcesport I'm told Mike Ashley let Cabaye listen to phone negotiations last week + he heard Arsenal say: "25 million a lot for a reserve" #moodchanger 12:10 PM - 2 Sep 2013 259 Retweets 20 favorites Reply Utterly unprofessional if true. Utterly unsurprising if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 One coming in tonight. No idea who it is....Ideally an attacking mf or a striker. Toes crossed. Arse in Fenwicks window if you're wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Get your abacus out then It was 'you' in the general sense. Do you agree with the approach? I like to get alignment on the analyses required before we allocate who does what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17251 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 One coming in tonight. No idea who it is....Ideally an attacking mf or a striker. Toes crossed. Dont know which part of "we've bought a couple of signings from the summer forward" you didnt understand in January tbh Ashley has basically said "this is how we're doing it, suck it up or fuck off". 46k there on Saturday, 2k down on the previous weekend. He'll soon reap what he's sown. Then we could well be stuck with the cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Posted by someone on facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 877 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 One mention of us on the BBC's live coverage so far, and it's to say Gomis isn't coming, which I think we all already knew. We've never really been in for anyone, have we? It's all been bullshit. Cue an eleventh hour bid for McCarthy (or Ozil, both are equally realistic in terms of we're not signing either.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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