aimaad22 4085 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 It is only relying on a lot of youngsters if we have massive injury problems. If we sign these two then we could have two different outfield teams like - Remy Cisse Ben Arfa Marveaux Bigi Tiote Haidara MYM Williamson Debuchy or Gouffran Gomis Sissoko Jonas Cabaye Anita Dummett Colo Taylor Santon To me that isn't bad at all, especially as I personally believe Bigiramana and Haidara are ready for regular first team football already and will only get better with games. Compare that to others outside the top 6 and I doubt many Newcastle fans would swap. The versatility of a few of our players also helps, we would be desperately unlucky not to be able to cover most positions with a quality player imo. Thats the key point isnt it. Lets hope they are. You can add Anita to that list too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 The bid for Gomis has been rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11276 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 There's a surprise..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4085 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Sheesh, no way should we bid more than 7M for him. Lyon can piss right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarStripes 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Presuming we only sign Gomis and Remy. ----------------------Krul Debuchy---Taylor---Colo---Santon -------Cabaye---Tiote---Sissoko -----Ben Arfa---Cisse---Gomis Pretty fuckin tasty first 11. ---------------------Elliott Santon---Mbiwa---Willo---Haidara -------Jonas---Anita---Marveux -----Gouffran---Shola---Remy That a decent 2nd team without having to use the likes of Alnwick, Tavernier, Streete, Mbabu, Satka, Dummett, Newton, Bigi, Abeid, Vuckic, Inman, Richardson, Sameobi or Campbell. When you look at it...with two new strikers we have a pretty solid squad and a very good pool of youth coming through. Edit: You could also add Obertan, Raylor and Gosling to the senior pool too. Edited July 28, 2013 by StellarStripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4085 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I suppose thats what you get thought for leaving it this late when everyone knows how desperate we are. Good job again club management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I suppose thats what you get thought for leaving it this late when everyone knows how desperate we are. Good job again club management. Or the bid just isn't enough regardless of when it's made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I think Gomis is worth 8 in the current market. We really should divvy up to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16992 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Or the bid just isn't enough regardless of when it's made. Theres one year left on his contract, see the Debuchy deal last year. Ashley in the past has been praised for walking away if the deal isnt to his liking. With a year to go on his contract he's worth nowhere nearly 8mill iyam. Trouble is there is almost certainly no alternative target and either he'll go to one of the other clubs in for him or we may get him in January. Thats the Ashley way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Presuming we only sign Gomis and Remy. ----------------------Krul Debuchy---Taylor---Colo---Santon -------Cabaye---Tiote---Sissoko -----Ben Arfa---Cisse---Gomis Pretty fuckin tasty first 11. ---------------------Elliott Santon---Mbiwa---Willo---Haidara -------Jonas---Anita---Marveux -----Gouffran---Shola---Remy That a decent 2nd team without having to use the likes of Alnwick, Tavernier, Streete, Mbabu, Satka, Dummett, Newton, Bigi, Abeid, Vuckic, Inman, Richardson, Sameobi or Campbell. When you look at it...with two new strikers we have a pretty solid squad and a very good pool of youth coming through. Edit: You could also add Obertan, Raylor and Gosling to the senior pool too. Santon playing reserve and first team games? EDIT: I'm also hoping Taylor will be usurped by Mbiwa if all 3 of our best CB's are fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Theres one year left on his contract, see the Debuchy deal last year. Ashley in the past has been praised for walking away if the deal isnt to his liking. With a year to go on his contract he's worth nowhere nearly 8mill iyam. Trouble is there is almost certainly no alternative target and either he'll go to one of the other clubs in for him or we may get him in January. Thats the Ashley way. Were desperate for a striker, on this occasion we should pay the extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16992 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Were desperate for a striker, on this occasion we should pay the extra. Try telling Ashley. I actually agree with him, hes not worth 8mill regardless of the time left on his contract iyam. But I'd be very surprised if theyve got an alternative target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If i could get close enough to ashley i would tell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30166 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Every club in France should know by now that we're not prepared to go over our valuation of any player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Never mind clubs in France. It's about us not them. If we go into the season with cisse, gouffran and amamobi striking we will be doomed by christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4085 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Or the bid just isn't enough regardless of when it's made. Aye generally but to be fair in this case most would agree the player isnt worth more than what we've bid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Aye generally but to be fair in this case most would agree the player isnt worth more than what we've bid for him. most (arguable anyway) fans. clubs value players differently though was RVP worth 24 million if suarez is supposedly worth 50? was torres worth 50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 most (arguable anyway) fans. clubs value players differently though was RVP worth 24 million if suarez is supposedly worth 50? was torres worth 50? At the time they were fair valuations but Torres has not given £50m of value to Chelsea. Are we again going to argue over £1 million - £1.5million and place the start of the season in jeopardy having done the same last year and not learn't a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If Arsenal do get Suarez I'll be delighted I took them for the my long shot title bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 At the time they were fair valuations but Torres has not given £50m of value to Chelsea. Are we again going to argue over £1 million - £1.5million and place the start of the season in jeopardy having done the same last year and not learn't a thing? 50 million a fair valuation for a player whos only once scored 20 league goal in a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If Ashley had opened up his wallet with 50 million for Torres at that time, you would have had no problem with it Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16992 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Wenger must be properly desperate to get something into his trophy cabinet like for them to be going for a lad with his reputation. Funny feeling this one isnt down to Wenger....maybe after all the shit in the press about "6/7/8 years without a trophy" his employers have pulled rank on him and undermined the bloke with this one. Could be the beginning of the end for him at AFC. Some people are never satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If Ashley had opened up his wallet with 50 million for Torres at that time, you would have had no problem with it Andrew. Is that seriously a point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Is that seriously a point? You didn't mention he missed part of that season with injury which is critical to your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You didn't mention he missed part of that season with injury which is critical to your point. is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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