David Kelly 1254 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I think he can rely on the likelihood that Newcastle won't get into Europe. We'd either need a cup victory, which is laughable, or gaining access via the league which, in the current model, is just as laughable. How many spots go to England now? 6? I cannot see it being an issue we need to face any time soon.I'm not so sure wafa cup via the league is so out of the question. We had a horrendous start to the season and we aren't a kick in the arse off that position now. I'm in no way suggesting that will finish there this season but you currently have Liverpool, Manure & Spurs all looking shite so it's not out of the question that an unfancied team will get at leaset one of the league positions. Given that Ashley has given up the naming rights to Ibrox (which to me suggests he's realised he won't be able use it to advertise SD in Europe) I agree with HF that he'll soon have SD all over their shirts. In which case he'd much rather them be in Europe than us. With us he can just get all the free advertisng from the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Tsk tsk doesnt sound like Rangers can wipe its own nose. That'll have to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42566 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Can we take 'football' out of the title, given that he has little interest in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22020 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I wonder why sports direct isn't our shirt sponsor already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1254 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I wonder why sports direct isn't our shirt sponsor alreadyIs there much need for it when their name is plastered all round the ground already? Would the benefit of having their names on our shirts be greater than the loss of income from Wonga. I assume they have decided not (same as having Wonga pay for the stadium naming rights). Obviously I'm working on the assumption that they woudln't pay us anything if their names were on the shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 he's hangiung in hoping some idiot foreigner will see us as a well established side, big ground (so no big building programme needed), massive support, where kicking in £ 200 mm would make us a serious player he isn't going to put that money in but we must be an attractive bit of goods to the right investor - and then exit MA laughing his head off at us punters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22020 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Is there much need for it when their name is plastered all round the ground already? Would the benefit of having their names on our shirts be greater than the loss of income from Wonga. I assume they have decided not (same as having Wonga pay for the stadium naming rights). Obviously I'm working on the assumption that they woudln't pay us anything if their names were on the shirts. don't know. the exposure SD would get from the being plastered right there on the shirt on TVs around the world every time we play a game no matter the ground might be worth more to him than the money we receive from the likes of Wonga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30754 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 don't know. the exposure SD would get from the being plastered right there on the shirt on TVs around the world every time we play a game no matter the ground might be worth more to him than the money we receive from the likes of Wonga. The money has been important in the past when he was subsidising us. Now that we're turning a profit every year he may decide that he can get his brand on our shirts without it costing him a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35165 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 he's hangiung in hoping some idiot foreigner will see us as a well established side, big ground (so no big building programme needed), massive support, where kicking in £ 200 mm would make us a serious player he isn't going to put that money in but we must be an attractive bit of goods to the right investor - and then exit MA laughing his head off at us punters Stunning analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22020 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) ...and yet depressingly accurate Edited November 14, 2014 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10900 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 ...and yet depressingly accurate Is it though? I don't think he's "hanging around" on the off chance Richie Rich fancies spunking £200m. I think that he's built one of the only professional football clubs on the planet that actually turn a profit, he's got his real passion thrust into the Premier League spotlight and has seen it blossom.. he's almost benefited from receiving a shit storm of abuse, in that he doesn't care either way about how he's perceived by the fans of the club he owns. Now, distanced from the emotion of a football club, he can make whatever decision best progresses his agenda with a cold objectivity that many owners do not have. Even Mansour and Abramovic want their team to win stuff because it's an extension of their egos, Ashley couldn't give a fuck what Newcastle do, as long as we stay up and his baby stays bathed in the glow of a million TVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35165 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 ...and yet depressingly accurate It's cliche-ridden speculation. He's actually refused to turn up to meetings with potentially serious investors in the past as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22020 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 i reckon if some billy bollocks came along with enough wedge ashley would sell up sharpish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35165 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 i reckon if some billy bollocks came along with enough wedge ashley would sell up sharpish Obviously. That's different to just hanging onto the club in the hope of a buyer. He's got a strategy for the club which appears to be medium term at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10900 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 i reckon if some billy bollocks came along with enough wedge ashley would sell up sharpish Yeah, but that's not the same, is it. I mean, that's true of pretty much every owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/15/ed-miliband-sports-direct-zero-hours-contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17356 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Game changer? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11257795/Newcastle-and-Rangers-will-not-be-able-to-play-in-Europe-together-next-season-because-of-Mike-Ashley.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30754 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 He doesn't want us playing EL anyway so I can't see it changing much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22020 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Game changer? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11257795/Newcastle-and-Rangers-will-not-be-able-to-play-in-Europe-together-next-season-because-of-Mike-Ashley.html If it means we don't play the Europa league games Mike will be happy. Fewer games to distract from the ultimate aim of surviving in the premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22020 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 He doesn't want us playing EL anyway so I can't see it changing much. It'd be brutally honest if they admitted as much in that eventuality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30754 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I can't see them having the balls, they'll end up blaming UEFA and say they desperately want to see us competing in Europe. All the time with a huge grin on their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10900 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Won't this just be a "Cross that bridge when we come to it" kind of deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22020 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Well we won't be in the CL anytime under Ashley and we already know they don't want us in the uefa cup so everyone's a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3923 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Could it be a blessing in disguise? Could we now see Newcastle actually trying to ride higher in the Pl without the horrible millstone of the Europa league.................... ....................Nah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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