Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Can just see the little grin on CT's face as he pressed 'post' after typing the word 'Genuis' in his title thread and waited for the replies to come in. Or the shaking shoulders chortle reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Ashley's ambition is to make a profit on his shares without having to dip into his pocket any further. I think he wants to build the value of the club to the point where someone will buy his shares off him. He has no affection for us and I think he doesn't give a shit whether we win anything or not. imo the reason he didn't buy enough players in the summer was because he thought he could increase the net worth of the club without it; the reason he bought the players in January was to protect his investment in the club against the financial disaster of relegation, especially with significantly more money on offer next season for being a premiership club. I just don't think the football - in the sense we look at it - matters to him much. We're just another business he owns which needs to give him a return on investment, I don't think he cares about Newcastle, the club or the fans at all. Maybe turning around a struggling business gives him a hard on. I think he's happy to build the business organically if it makes financial sense but he's not going to do it for the sake of winning one of the cups. I don't see us spending much in the summer tbh, I think we'll still have a small squad of purples and we'll move on a few of the second tier players who weren't up to it, and looking to pick up cheap development players to replace them from Graham Carr's notebook. Pardieu will still be our manager. We will still require lots of luck to be successful. I think we'll carry on in this vein until he can shift his shares. So I don't think he's a football genius, he seems pretty good at business though. I don't follow NUFC for the financial results unfortunately. I'm not sure someone as disinterested in the football side as you paint, would still be attending games or scouting trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Howmanheyman 33098 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 ".....This is Boldon Air Traffic Control Tower calling flight number CT-00-WUM, you're clear to land now, over." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'm not sure someone as disinterested in the football side as you paint, would still be attending games or scouting trips. OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44794 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Or the shaking shoulders chortle reading this. Wobbling. Let's be honest. We're all friends here, CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21911 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Ashley's ambition is to make a profit on his shares without having to dip into his pocket any further. I think he wants to build the value of the club to the point where someone will buy his shares off him. He has no affection for us and I think he doesn't give a shit whether we win anything or not. imo the reason he didn't buy enough players in the summer was because he thought he could increase the net worth of the club without it; the reason he bought the players in January was to protect his investment in the club against the financial disaster of relegation, especially with significantly more money on offer next season for being a premiership club. I just don't think the football - in the sense we look at it - matters to him much. We're just another business he owns which needs to give him a return on investment, I don't think he cares about Newcastle, the club or the fans at all. Maybe turning around a struggling business gives him a hard on. I think he's happy to build the business organically if it makes financial sense but he's not going to do it for the sake of winning one of the cups. I don't see us spending much in the summer tbh, I think we'll still have a small squad of purples and we'll move on a few of the second tier players who weren't up to it, and looking to pick up cheap development players to replace them from Graham Carr's notebook. Pardieu will still be our manager. We will still require lots of luck to be successful. I think we'll carry on in this vein until he can shift his shares. So I don't think he's a football genius, he seems pretty good at business though. I don't follow NUFC for the financial results unfortunately. Good read and one that i suspect sums up how must supporters feel about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 She's got a cracking pair of wabs like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 She's got a cracking pair of wabs like. She looks overdressed to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 When Newcastle United crashed unceremoniously into the Coca-Cola Championship many Geordie fans wondered just where the despair would all end. Talk of being the “next Leeds” was rife on Tyneside, and the potential of stooping further down the Football League ladder was a genuine fear with sides like Nottingham Forest also tumbling the way of the Elland Road club into the third tier. However, it didn’t turn out like that. And while a host of Toon tycoon Mike Ashley’s decisions haven’t been popular at St James’ Park, the Newcastle owner has stuck to his guns, stuck to his plan. And while clubs like Portsmouth and Glasgow Rangers have perished amidst the choking global economic crisis, the Magpies have emerged on the other side in the black. Since Ashley took over in 2007 he’s recorded yearly losses of £34.1m, £37.7m, £33.5m and £3.9m when the financial figures have been announced, but yesterday the latest set of figure revealed a profit of £1.4m. After episodes of controversy during the Ashley reign with stadium naming rights, relegation, the exits of United legends like Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan and unpopular player departures like £35m man Andy Carroll, Kevin Nolan and Joey Barton, managing director Derek Llambias took delight in breaking what he described as “boring news”. Because while it lacked a bit of X Factor, it means that as Pompey and Rangers slum it out in the lower leagues in the UK and in the week when Coventry City entered administration once again, Newcastle are in a super state of financial health and there is every reason to feel optimistic about the future. Indeed, as United prepare for next season’s cash bonanza of £70m per head for the Premier League big guns thanks to the new TV deal, the days of astronomical wages are behind them. So too are paying installments for players that arrived with an inflated pay packet and over- rated reputations – even Spanish flop Xisco is no longer on the payroll! When United published a controversial blueprint back in 2010 which stated they would no longer sign “trophy players”, it felt like another controversial chapter of the club’s history was unfolding. But what has transpired since has seen signings like Moussa Sissoko, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Massadio Haidara and Mathieu Debuchy come through the door. True, Newcastle are in 13th place in the Premier League and no supporter will be popping champagne corks on hearing that the financial figures are good. Yet what is in place is a solid foundation to move forward, the team is growing, the stadium is approaching for a sell out for most games and ticket prices are affordable. And that’s without mentioning the Europa League – which Llambias says United are going hell for leather in order to end the trophy drought that currently stands at 44 painful years. Llambias said today: “We’re pleased. “These accounts are boring and that’s a really good thing. We’re not sitting here and saying we’re in debt. “This proves we are sticking to the working model that we said we would do. It’s working.” Even the Toon MD said he was left bored by discussing United’s healthy financial figures. But what does it all means for United supporters and what does it translate to as far as football is concerned? Investment on the pitch is the primary concern of most Toon fans, and the hope is that this summer will see both the development pool AND the first team squad see some additions. Of course, some players will move on like they do in any close season, but like last summer Newcastle will aim to retain their big hitters – unless there is an irresistible bid for one of the big boys. Even then, though, Llambias says that United would demand £25m for any of their big names. Next season will also see Wonga displayed on the Magpies’ shirt and there is another big announcement due before the end of the season on the commercial front. Llambias added: “We’ve got one more commercial deal to announce which we’re really happy with. “That will be reflected in our accounts next year. People will be surprised and happy what we’ve done on that side. “We will announce that before the end of the season. “It’s the biggest deal that the club has ever had. “They’re nowhere near in comparison to the big boys but for us we have achieved and we’ve punched above our weight.” Perhaps the only worry for United is that more teams follow their lead and intensify their scouting network by following the lead of chief scout Graham Carr. Llambias joked that Carr may have to start attending games in disguise in a bid to put others off the scent! He added: “The model works and it’s not just viable as a business plan but it’s also viable as a business on the field. “Last summer we brought one player in because we thought we had enough coming through. “We kept our squad. That was a major factor for us. “We’re not joking when we say that if anyone made a call about our players it was £25m. “Sooner or later people go away and that’s how we kept our players. “Injuries and not enough depth plus the cups and it became a disaster. “But we’ve done great business in January and stayed within our model. “We had a net £31m spend in January and quite honestly was an achievement for the quality we bought. “That’s this year. Last year’s accounts we were still very pleased with the way we run the club. “We’re trying to bring in affordable football, stability and entertainment. “With that combination we’re getting there.” And all of it seems a world away from when United crashed into the Championship when only trips to Scunthorpe and Barnsley were flickering on many United fans’ radars. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-derek-llambias-2061581 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Any ideas / rumours? Llambias added: “We’ve got one more commercial deal to announce which we’re really happy with. “That will be reflected in our accounts next year. People will be surprised and happy what we’ve done on that side. “We will announce that before the end of the season. “It’s the biggest deal that the club has ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30535 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 “We had a net £31m spend in January and quite honestly was an achievement for the quality we bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Any ideas / rumours? New kit sponsor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Sounds terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Tell your genius to invest into our coaching infrastructure for the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Tell your genius to invest into our coaching infrastructure for the first team. I thought you just wanted a new manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I thought you just wanted a new manager? It's not like I actually created a thread on that topic or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 It's not like I actually created a thread on that topic or anything. But you do still want him replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Enrique wanted to leave because Ashley and the club were showing no ambition. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9377 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Enrique wanted to leave because Ashley and the club were showing no ambition. Plain and simple. He left becasue he was a footballer approaching the last year of his contract and thus held all the cards, it was £££'s plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I thought you just wanted a new manager? Here's some quotes about me mentioning the coaching setup. http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/28926-alan-pardew/page__st__4180#entry1183028 http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/34063-newcastle-v-stoke/page__st__140#entry1180627 http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/28926-alan-pardew/page__st__4180#entry1183028 Here's about as far as I've come to stating that I wanted Pardew "out." http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/33994-the-road-to-amsterdam-arena-uefa-europa-league-2013-benfica/page__st__720#entry1180063 http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/33994-the-road-to-amsterdam-arena-uefa-europa-league-2013-benfica/page__st__640#entry1179880 http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/33711-should-he-stay-or-should-he-go/page__st__40#entry1146270 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 So you want a better manager in than Pardew...... We agree, so why pretend you didn't? Seems a bit odd. Just stick to your guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 You're incredulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Not sure what you are trying to say tbh You would like Pardew gone if we can get a better manager. So would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Not sure what you are trying to say tbh You would like Pardew gone if we can get a better manager. So would I. You've been shouting as loud as possible about how much you want rid of Pardew and I have done nothing like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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