TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Fish said: £600m for a bigger club, closer to the promised land, with an excellent playing squad, a good manager, and so on. Or trying to strike a deal with Mike Ashley, Justin Barnes and Luke Charnley. The A, B, & C of corporate cunts. Where the goal posts will move during the negotiations, the valuation is already inflated, the club need more investment on the squad, on the facilities etc. fwiw I think Newcastle United are a better proposition for investors than most club in the country, but Liverpool are one of the most famous clubs on the planet and wouldn't need a sizeable investment to actually compete with Man City et al. I don't know where the promised land is or who Luke Charnley is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just now, TheGingerQuiff said: I don't know where the promised land is or who Luke Charnley is. Title challenging, and Lee Charnley. Pretty hungover tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Klopp isn't a good enough manager to challenge for the title imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13863 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Seems like his Liverpool side haven't been able to defend since he arrived. No idea about his Dortmund team but they did have Hummels at centre half so that probably covers a multitude of sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 minute ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Klopp isn't a good enough manager to challenge for the title imo. It's interesting, when the parts click, they're excellent. But there must be something to explain why, when they stop clicking, they struggle so much to win games. They have the talent, the workrate, the invention and "game management". He doesn't seem able to get them to grind out a win. That might be a lack of a goal scorer who can have a pretty quiet game, but still be relied upon to put the ball in the back of the net like Kane, Lukaku, Joselu. Or it might be that Klopp's coaching is lacking that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGingerQuiff said: So she's gone to an away game as a guest of NUFC related folk and sat with them, then disappeared down the tunnel with a Benitez associate because she wants to buy LFC? Unlikely. It was reported that she was looking at more than one club though so perhaps she's having a last throw of the dice with them before moving on. A billion quid valuation will kill off that anyway though. Likely just the mirror stirring the pot. This. You don’t go to an away game to make enquiries. You also don’t go to NUFC v Stoke unless you’re interested. It could be that she’s made enquiries about both clubs about a possible purchase as she did with both us and City when they got bought over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Oh, I nearly forgot, shut up Fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, ewerk said: This. You don’t go to an away game to make enquiries. You also don’t go to NUFC v Stoke unless you’re interested. It could be that she’s made enquiries about both clubs about a possible purchase as she did with both us and City when they got bought over. Aye maybe so, and if the choice was between us and West Ham, or Everton I'd fancy us to win out. But Liverpool are a different beast entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Oh and fuck all y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, ewerk said: Oh, I nearly forgot, shut up Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, The Fish said: Aye maybe so, and if the choice was between us and West Ham, or Everton I'd fancy us to win out. But Liverpool are a different beast entirely. Yes but if they’re playing hardball with pie in the sky figures she has shown that she’ll walk away and go to a more reasonable vendor. Hopefully Justin Barnes is easier to work with than Ashley and Llambias were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 She has been rumoured to have been interested in Liverpool for ages. The link to Newcastle is more recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/7/2017 at 0:13 AM, Howay said: Charnley can’t even handle sacking Steve McClaren during a disasterous run that made it easy as fuck to sack him. I’ve no doubt Ashley will have him heading up the negotiation team for this possible £400m transaction. It would be better if they had Joe Kinnear involved. The price would end up being $400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 20 hours ago, ewerk said: Yes but if they’re playing hardball with pie in the sky figures she has shown that she’ll walk away and go to a more reasonable vendor. Hopefully Justin Barnes is easier to work with than Ashley and Llambias were. That's the kernel of my concerns. Ashley is a notoriously difficult negotiator, and Barnes apparently has a reputation for being a pain the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 But he's willing to sell now, which is the key difference to last time. Of course they'll want the best deal they can get but the club has effectively been up for sale for years and we don't appear to have seen any serious interest so he knows what an opportunity this could be. On the other hand I don't think that FSG have any interest in selling Liverpool barring an offer too good to turn down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, ewerk said: But he's willing to sell now, which is the key difference to last time. Of course they'll want the best deal they can get but the club has effectively been up for sale for years and we don't appear to have seen any serious interest so he knows what an opportunity this could be. On the other hand I don't think that FSG have any interest in selling Liverpool barring an offer too good to turn down. No, I get all that, but I'm tempering any excitement at the prospect of any possible new owner because of Ashley's intractable nature. He says he's happy to sell, but the price tag seems high and he's known for shifting the goalposts (apparently), on top of that the only thing he's ever cared about is the promotion of Sports Direct so I wouldn'tbe surprised if he insists on some kind of SD deal for merchandise or whatever. I dunno, perhaps I am being too cynical, but if Staveley wants to buy a Premier League club I'm convinced Ashley and his cronies would prove too much of a pain in the arse to deal with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I think you're better just sitting back and waiting to see if anything develops like the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, ewerk said: I think you're better just sitting back and waiting to see if anything develops like the rest of us. I'm just thinking ahead mate, like the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonMarshy 2 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Chronicle reporting that ashley has reduced his asking price for the club from more than £450million to around £380m in an attempt to attract interest. Could he really actually be trying to shift it now? I mean its from chronicle like so he's probably actually renamed the tea lady sports direct, but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, ToonMarshy said: Chronicle reporting that ashley has reduced his asking price for the club from more than £450million to around £380m in an attempt to attract interest. Could he really actually be trying to shift it now? I mean its from chronicle like so he's probably actually renamed the tea lady sports direct, but.. Those numbers have been doing the rounds quite a bit recently, so I think we can safely say that £380m is the asking price. Still feel like we're getting a bit invested in this though. It ain't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonMarshy 2 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Those numbers have been doing the rounds quite a bit recently, so I think we can safely say that £380m is the asking price. Still feel like we're getting a bit invested in this though. It ain't gonna happen. 100% with you. Similar to the Rafa appointment - its one of those things that i would rather wake up one morning and go 'Holy shit, Rafas our manager! / Ashley sold the club! / Diame remembers how to play football!' completely out the blue and against all odds, than to try and put all the pieces together making 2+2=5 and then getting disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Those numbers have been doing the rounds quite a bit recently, so I think we can safely say that £380m is the asking price. Still feel like we're getting a bit invested in this though. It ain't gonna happen. To be fair I think we're mostly coming up with reasons why it won't happen. Even those who're coming up with reasons why it might are probably just doing so to have a conversation about it. I don't think anyone is convinced it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm convinced it won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3259 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Chinese consortia are “sniffing around” Newcastle United - and a football-takeover expert insists he would advise them to purchase the Magpies because they “have the potential to be a Champions League club every year”. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chinese-consortia-sniffing-around-newcastle-13761614 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 He knows fuck all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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