PaddockLad 17643 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'm with you on this, so is HF by the sound of things. I'd make more use off retrospective punishments to act as a deterrent mind. The FA say though that retrospective only comes in for cases like yesterday, where it was missed by officials. If he'd got a yellow that wouldve been the end of it as far as punishment was concerned, which was the case with Ryan Shawcross v Arsenal wasnt it? I think manangers and players need instruction from the FA/refs as to what sort of force is considered proportionate in challenges. If the responsibility was on the club to prevent challenges like this and it was punishable by deducting a point or two, would we see a difference, or are they thankfully so rare that that measure would be going too far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Joey Barton got a twelve match ban for ''less'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 How long does it take for fans to hear anything from the FA? I thought normally by now, there would be an article saying that they're investigating it further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Sack that, just read they're going to study it after Mark Halsey's report is received Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Dave Whelan has just had a full 5 minutes on five live saying it was a 'nothing tackle' and the boy won the ball cleanly and it was just a 'collision'. He also claims that Halsey saw it clearly and thought there was nothing wrong with it, hence the lack of a free kick etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The BBC are saying he'll get ''at least'' a three match ban. He can't get just a standard red card ban for that - it was criminal - and he meant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Dave Whelan has just had a full 5 minutes on five live saying it was a 'nothing tackle' and the boy won the ball cleanly and it was just a 'collision'. He also claims that Halsey saw it clearly and thought there was nothing wrong with it, hence the lack of a free kick etc. A lot of Wigan fans are saying it was ''50/50'' - yet Massadio had the ball so it clearly wasn't. Horror tackle, deliberate and grown men should stop making excuses. Martinez has already revealed McManaman's lack of temperament the other week - saying if you tell him the day before a match he's playing he gets too nervous & can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 The BBC are saying he'll get ''at least'' a three match ban. He can't get just a standard red card ban for that - it was criminal - and he meant it. You watch, it's all he'll get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17643 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Dave Whelan has just had a full 5 minutes on five live saying it was a 'nothing tackle' and the boy won the ball cleanly and it was just a 'collision'. He also claims that Halsey saw it clearly and thought there was nothing wrong with it, hence the lack of a free kick etc. Thats the only comments I've seen on this that I've found offensive. What a strap on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 A lot of Wigan fans are saying it was ''50/50'' - yet Massadio had the ball so it clearly wasn't. Horror tackle, deliberate and grown men should stop making excuses. Martinez has already revealed McManaman's lack of temperament the other week - saying if you tell him the day before a match he's playing he gets too nervous & can't play. watching the videos again and again, Haidara has the ball, it's not a 50/50 challenge. Their is a slight deflection off McManaman as Haidara moves it on though. If it were the other way round, the Wigan fans would be sharpening their pitchforks like we are. Standard football fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 When you watch it from the linesmans angle it's clear as day McManaman has thought ''I'm having this cathword''. It's not even debatable that he's went to hurt him. Plus if not intentional - to miss the ball by so much is criminal in itself. He just touched the edge of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 "The ball was there. Young McManaman went in for the ball and got the ball as clean as a whistle, but in the follow through they collided." Cloud cuckoo land. Talking as if a two footed knee high wipeout challenge that broke both legs would be fine as long as the ball is won. "They collided" Fucking hell. Like a Taliban "collides" with a drone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Cloud cuckoo land. Talking as if a two footed knee high wipeout challenge that broke both legs would be fine as long as the ball is won. "They collided" Fucking hell. Like a Taliban "collides" with a drone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 young = irrelevant went in for the ball - Didn't go for the ball got the ball as clean as a whistle = barely touched it collided = he left the boot in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Unbelievable some of the shite coming from Wigan. I'm all for backing your own players but when they're in the wrong then take off the blinkers and say what you see. Like I said, I couldn't give a toss if he bakes cakes for old people every Sunday and buys the Big Issue every week, the 'tackle' was poor, dangerous, and has finished a young lads season. Throw the book at the fucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 What an utter cunt. At least most of their fans (about ten. That must count as the majority for them?) have the grace to say it was a bad tackle. How anyone can say it's not completely defies belief. Stupid old fucking cunt. I hope he goes bankrupt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17643 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 You watch, it's all he'll get. He cant get any longer, its the law. This comes up every time, but it doesnt change, he wont get a longer ban. It was a red card offence in the eyes of the law so its 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Whelan did an interview a couple of weeks back about the leg break at Wembley for Blackburn that pretty much finished him as a footballer. Apparently he was crying as he told this tale about it being from an over the top tackle and claims he still has the stud marks in his legs from it as scars. You would think as someone who had a career ended by a shocker tackle, he would be our side here? Hypocritical twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Whelan did an interview a couple of weeks back about the leg break at Wembley for Blackburn that pretty much finished him as a footballer. Apparently he was crying as he told this tale about it being from an over the top tackle and claims he still has the stud marks in his legs from it as scars. You would think as someone who had a career ended by a shocker tackle, he would be our side here? Hypocritical twat. Never knew that about him. That's cheered me up a bit. Hope he still suffers from it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Whelan did an interview a couple of weeks back about the leg break at Wembley for Blackburn that pretty much finished him as a footballer. Apparently he was crying as he told this tale about it being from an over the top tackle and claims he still has the stud marks in his legs from it as scars. You would think as someone who had a career ended by a shocker tackle, he would be our side here? Hypocritical twat. A couple of weeks back? Sick of hearing that cunt go on about it all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Dave Whelan: 'I still cry over my FA Cup final leg break.' http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4832695/Dave-Whelan-I-still-cry-over-my-FA-Cup-final-leg-break.html Hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Whelan denied McManaman's tackle was reckless in answer to a question, then added: "When I broke my leg in the cup final it was exactly the same type of tackle. "We both went for the ball. It brought back memories. It ruined my career. I am not going to criticise Norman Deeley. "These things happen in football. He came over the ball but he didn't do it with the aim of breaking my leg." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21830721 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 What a disgrace of a man by the way. His age, with millions, sat at home, crying, about a football game from 50 years ago. He lived through the war ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17643 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 What a disgrace of a man by the way. His age, with millions, sat at home, crying, about a football game from 50 years ago. He lived through the war ffs. Hes a cock. Two things...he's judging it from the standards of 50 years ago, and does he have a "duty of care" towards Haidara seeing as he's Macmanaman's employer?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 You would thinkm as someone who claims to be still scarred mentally and physically by a shocker tackle from 50 years ago, he would want such tackles that could ultimately end someones career clamped down on by making sure punishments are handed out? Typical footballing dinosaur who thinks it's ok to kick the shit out of each other as it's a mans game and all that shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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