Europe --- In or Out

[Rayvin 5302]

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The man is a pillock, it's confirmed.

[Toonpack 9973]

So yesterday the Mrs and her friend are out walking the dogs at the beach and talking about the referendum, bloke walks past and starts haranguing them about ruining the country etc, both pretty shaken tbh (although Mrs' pal is a formidable woman and I wouldn't dare say boo to her) and then last night one of youngest sons mates gets racially abused and told to fuck off home in Maccy D's whilst waiting to get served, when his only ethnicity is to have the surname of Brown and a bit of a tan.

 

If that just what's happened to those I know, how widespread must this shit be !!!

Edited July 1, 2016 by Toonpack

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[Dickie 0]

I knew he reminded me of someone

[Dickie 0]

 

I see what you're saying - and I certainly think that's how the 52% will see it. Perhaps we (Remainers) should be more articulate on our views on this. I think the first few days were so jarring and, for me at least, filled with a profound sense of loss, that views weren't put across very well.

 

Aye no worries mate. A large part of the problem is that people on both sides are feeling betrayed and rightly so. It's a difficult subject to talk about without offending someone. I work with a lot of EU immigrants (Spain, Italy, Germany and Greece) and obviously we've hardly talked about anything else this week. A few times I've found myself trying to explain to them how the country could have ended up so fucked that a vote like this would have been possible and I have to be careful because it can sound like I'm making excuses for racists and xenophobes which of course isn't going to endear me to my EU mates. I don't think all leave voters are racists and xenophobes, and I also think if someone is a racist or xenophobe then they themselves are victims who we should try to understand the causes that have led to them ending up that way, but it's difficult to talk in these terms to people who are feeling personally betrayed by every single person who voted leave. That's really what it feels like to them.

[PaddockLad 17665]

Ah so, unsubstantiated claims then. They could both be utter pillocks for all we know.

Seeing as May was Home Secretary and thus responsible for immigration, I think in view of the events of the last week she could possibly be deemed to have been fuckin useless at her job and to have partly caused the shit storm we're currently going through..

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[Rayvin 5302]

Seeing as May was Home Secretary and thus responsible for immigration, I think in view of the events of the last week she could possibly be deemed to have been fuckin useless at her job and to have partly caused the shit storm we're currently going through..

 

That's two for two then. Utter fucking pillocks.

 

Your move, CT. Any evidence that they don't both suck the big one?

[Gemmill 46064]

They both said they were really good in their speeches. What more do you want?

[Christmas Tree 4840]

Seeing as May was Home Secretary and thus responsible for immigration, I think in view of the events of the last week she could possibly be deemed to have been fuckin useless at her job and to have partly caused the shit storm we're currently going through..

If only Gordon Brown had listened to Gillian Duffy

[Christmas Tree 4840]

Interesting as well this post of mine from 2013. Look at the poll number in the last paragraph. 52%.

 

The referendum gave them the party they were looking for.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 1, 2016 by Christmas Tree

[Kid Dynamite 7179]

Which proves that no-one really cares about free trade or making Britain great again. It's all about getting rid of the brown people

[Christmas Tree 4840]

Which proves that no-one really cares about free trade or making Britain great again. It's all about getting rid of the brown people

 

Or the 350 million a week

[Rayvin 5302]

Good post CT - depressing though.

[Kid Dynamite 7179]

 

Or the 350 million a week

Which has long since been proven to be nearer £136mil per week after rebates and other benefits paid back by the EU

[Christmas Tree 4840]

Which has long since been proven to be nearer £136mil per week after rebates and other benefits paid back by the EU

I know.

[Kid Dynamite 7179]

So why say £350mil then

[Christmas Tree 4840]

Good post CT - depressing though.

Of course it was pretty much dismissed on here

 

I did warn against dismissing but does anyone ever listen to me

 

[Andrew 4863]

[Christmas Tree 4840]

Thanks

[Christmas Tree 4840]

 

 

Wish I knew how to link to it

[Andrew 4863]

Thanks

Don't misconstrue that picture as congratulating you in any way.

[Christmas Tree 4840]

Don't misconstrue that picture as congratulating you in any way.

Jesus I didn't

[Christmas Tree 4840]

Good post CT - depressing though.

This will cheer you up. Found one of your posts

 

[Renton 22004]

Which proves that no-one really cares about free trade or making Britain great again. It's all about getting rid of the brown people

You know people like you really are a huge reason we are in this mess now. CT is right in this instance, simply dismissing people who have concerns with immigration, whether real or perceived, as racists has proven to be completely counterproductive. Same with the islamophobia accusations. If you ignore people's concerns for decades don't be surprised to get a reaction like this. Your right on piety is actually pretty pathetic, and worse than that, extremely damaging. Well done.