Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, Alex said: ‘We’ I just live here at the moment. I will likely retire to England and may be moving back sooner rather than later as my parents are getting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44561 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 If you think you're coming back in ten years time to reap the [insert unspecified future benefits here], you can fuck right off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gemmill said: If you think you're coming back in ten years time to reap the [insert unspecified future benefits here], you can fuck right off. That’s better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3960 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, spongebob toonpants said: It’s weird how personal it gets with EU fanatics. it shouldn’t matter that much to you… the EU is just a big government and governments aren’t in it for your benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 If you get any more profound than that you might just win me over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3960 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Asprilla said: It’s weird how personal it gets with EU fanatics. it shouldn’t matter that much to you… the EU is just a big government and governments aren’t in it for your benefit. Well my wife has lost her business as it involved impoting glass from and selling jewelery to the EU, and we have had o shelve plans to retire to Spain so does feel quite personal. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32893 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, spongebob toonpants said: Well my wife has lost her business as it involved impoting glass from and selling jewelery to the EU, and we have had o shelve plans to retire to Spain so does feel quite personal. Aye but apart from that why is it personal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Asprilla said: Can set our own tax rates to suit our situation. Can make independent trade deals with emerging economies. We were able to get a head start with the vaccines. Anything that doesn’t involve asking 27 other countries if it’s ok 🤷🏻♂️ Not being able to set own tax rates is another great myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Isegrim said: Not being able to set own tax rates is another great myth. https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vat-rates_en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, spongebob toonpants said: Well my wife has lost her business as it involved impoting glass from and selling jewelery to the EU, and we have had o shelve plans to retire to Spain so does feel quite personal. I’m sorry to hear that. The tarifs are applied by the EU though. I’m pretty sure Spain will have you, have you been told you can’t emigrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3860 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Asprilla said: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vat-rates_en Yes because vat rates are the only kind of tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Asprilla said: I’m sorry to hear that. The tarifs are applied by the EU though. I’m pretty sure Spain will have you, have you been told you can’t emigrate? To any country not in the EU - not out of spite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Yes because vat rates are the only kind of tax If you can show me where I said it was the only kind of tax I will email you some fresh fruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, NJS said: To any country not in the EU - not out of spite. We were previous members though, completely harmonised up until that point. A unique case. The EU wants to protect itself as an entity above all else. That should tell you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 It tells you its been a success that wasn’t willing to jeopardise that to enable an ideologically driven UK government that had promised things it couldn’t deliver to win an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Alex said: It tells you its been a success that wasn’t willing to jeopardise that to enable an ideologically driven UK government that had promised things it couldn’t deliver to win an election. It’s damaging its own trade too. listen, we’re going round in circles, I’m able to accept that people can feel differently about politics whereas a good many of you find that impossible to accept and call us cunts or gammons. its a bit sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 So it’s protecting itself, actually strengthening its position in relation to its erstwhile member and damaging its own trade at the same time? Gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alex said: So it’s protecting itself, actually strengthening its position in relation to its erstwhile member and damaging its own trade at the same time? Gotcha “Itself” as an entity not the people who were until recently former citizens. 48% of which didn’t want to leave. If tariffs are happening they will be happening on both sides no? How is that of benefit to EU businesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21447 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Asprilla said: It’s damaging its own trade too. listen, we’re going round in circles, I’m able to accept that people can feel differently about politics whereas a good many of you find that impossible to accept and call us cunts or gammons. its a bit sad You've actively damaged people's livelihoods and those of their children you fucking dick. And ypu fucking live in the EU. It's just politics you say, without realing politics affects people in real ways. Two real examples given to you on this very board. I'm trying to recall you from when you posted ages ago. Were you always a cunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21447 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, Asprilla said: “Itself” as an entity not the people who were until recently former citizens. 48% of which didn’t want to leave. If tariffs are happening they will be happening on both sides no? How is that of benefit to EU businesses? It's not of benefit to the EU, who said it was. It was our choice, not theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Renton said: It's not of benefit to the EU, who said it was. It was our choice, not theirs. Both sides would be better off if the trading remained friction free. The UK wanted that and the EU didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Asprilla said: “Itself” as an entity not the people who were until recently former citizens. 48% of which didn’t want to leave. If tariffs are happening they will be happening on both sides no? How is that of benefit to EU businesses? Here, man. Own your fucking shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30407 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, Asprilla said: Both sides would be better off if the trading remained friction free. The UK wanted that and the EU didn’t. Why wouldn’t that damned EU give the U.K. all the benefits of membership without the obligations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21447 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, Asprilla said: Both sides would be better off if the trading remained friction free. The UK wanted that and the EU didn’t. We didn't. And its not tariffs that are the problem, its non tariff barriers. Which is a consequence of leaving the single market. We could have gone for a Norway deal, but chose not to because we wanted out of the EU regulatory sphere. The reasons for that are now becoming apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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