Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 oh, yes, you're right of course. where did you read about this story? it is being reported in the FT and Bloomberg today, as you'd expect https://www.ft.com/content/e32dda1b-7dbe-454e-ab32-3d80604df431 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-14/u-k-delays-brexit-border-checks-on-eu-goods-as-shortages-hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 MSM is covering this FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21461 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Yes, it will be on twitter and some newspaper sites - I read it on the Guardian live feed. Let's see if the BBC bother to report it on their televised news though. They seem to have given up on anything negative to do with Brexit or historical recording of racism from tory cabinet ministers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30409 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: MSM is covering this FWIW It's not even mentioned on the BBC website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44569 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Write to Points of View lads. Barry Took will sort this shit right out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: It's not even mentioned on the BBC website. looks like they just published their take on it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58556453 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 we will have to wait to see it makes the BBC's TV news bulletin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21461 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: looks like they just published their take on it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58556453 "Their take on it" You mean verbatim government propaganda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: i posted a link to this story from the FT on the previous page doesn’t really negate his point like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Renton said: "Their take on it" You mean verbatim government propaganda. it seems a fairly balanced report to me - they have a quote from mordaunt, a quote from labour's baroness chapman and one from the british chambers of commerce. i agree that it should be on the bbc home page but whoever is news editing seems to think the met gala is a more important story 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 it is the lead on their brexit page fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32917 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Renton said: "Their take on it" You mean verbatim government propaganda. Just caught something on R4 about NHS appointments and two callers bemoaning it but as soon as one mentioned that they suspected it was being run down for privatisation by the sell off party she was interrupted and told to keep politics out of it as there was no talking shite head, sorry Tory MP to waffle irrelevant lies on hand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21461 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: it seems a fairly balanced report to me - they have a quote from mordaunt, a quote from labour's baroness chapman and one from the british chambers of commerce. i agree that it should be on the bbc home page but whoever is news editing seems to think the met gala is a more important story 🙄 It's not well balanced at all, Mordaunt is given more coverage and she is telling a pack of lies, completely unchecked. This has nothing to do with covid or supply chains. I can't tell if Chapman's response has been edited, but she seems to say absolutely nothing. No coverage to the NFU and many other organisations who are massively pissed off by this, as it continues to put UK agriculture at a huge disadvantage. Also the massive impact on local authorities who have had to pay for border inspection post facilities and staff but are now deprived of their revenue. At a minimum, the BBC should explain that the beneficiaries are EU exporters, not UK industry. Anyway, fair enough Gloom, you've always maintained the state broadcaster has been fair and impartial on Brexit, we'll agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30409 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Renton said: It's not well balanced at all, Mordaunt is given more coverage and she is telling a pack of lies, completely unchecked. This has nothing to do with covid or supply chains. I can't tell if Chapman's response has been edited, but she seems to say absolutely nothing. No coverage to the NFU and many other organisations who are massively pissed off by this, as it continues to put UK agriculture at a huge disadvantage. Also the massive impact on local authorities who have had to pay for border inspection post facilities and staff but are now deprived of their revenue. At a minimum, the BBC should explain that the beneficiaries are EU exporters, not UK industry. Anyway, fair enough Gloom, you've always maintained the state broadcaster has been fair and impartial on Brexit, we'll agree to disagree. TBF it's only the BBC and The Telegraph carrying Chapman's comments anywhere. This is as much about Labour being afraid to go anywhere near Brexit for fear of re-opening that can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, Renton said: It's not well balanced at all, Mordaunt is given more coverage and she is telling a pack of lies, completely unchecked. This has nothing to do with covid or supply chains. I can't tell if Chapman's response has been edited, but she seems to say absolutely nothing. No coverage to the NFU and many other organisations who are massively pissed off by this, as it continues to put UK agriculture at a huge disadvantage. Also the massive impact on local authorities who have had to pay for border inspection post facilities and staff but are now deprived of their revenue. At a minimum, the BBC should explain that the beneficiaries are EU exporters, not UK industry. Anyway, fair enough Gloom, you've always maintained the state broadcaster has been fair and impartial on Brexit, we'll agree to disagree. i think what i've said is that bbc news stories have to be constructed in a certain way because of the bbc charter. the impartiality commitment means all reports have to contain voices from both sides of the political spectrum. i'm not saying they always ask the right people or the right questions or that they always get the news agenda right. i think ewerk is right about labour being scared to make much of this stuff, so there is less opposition to cover. there is also brexit fatigue and this is reflected in how news editors prioritise the brexit stories these days. it is only the FT, (pro-business/anti-brexit), and the guardian (anti-brexit) which is giving this story much of a play today as fas as i can see. i agree with you that this is a really important news story and the bbc - and other news organisations - could be doing more to inform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4194 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i think what i've said is that bbc news stories have to be constructed in a certain way because of the bbc charter. the impartiality commitment means all reports have to contain voices from both sides of the political spectrum. i'm not saying they always ask the right people or the right questions or that they always get the news agenda right. i think ewerk is right about labour being scared to make much of this stuff, so there is less opposition to cover. there is also brexit fatigue and this is reflected in how news editors prioritise the brexit stories these days. it is only the FT, (pro-business/anti-brexit), and the guardian (anti-brexit) which is giving this story much of a play today as fas as i can see. i agree with you that this is a really important news story and the bbc - and other news organisations - could be doing more to inform. Do you work for the BBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44569 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) He pays for it. 🍆 Edited September 14, 2021 by Gemmill 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, strawb said: Do you work for the BBC? no but i know loads of people who do or who have done over the years and all the conspiracy stuff is a load of bollocks tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 You would say that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Alex said: You would say that. i've put the conspiracy stuff to people i know who work or have worked there and they all say the same thing: you don't get a story published unless your copy complies with the impartiality rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30409 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Well it wouldn't be much of a conspiracy if they just told you the truth. As a Jew you should know that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 the editorial decision making at senior management level is another matter, and i accept that coverage can appear biased at times. but at reporter level, you have to report the truth and it has to be "balanced" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Did you pay any attention during the 2019 election btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 i don't think any of you need me to tell you this tbh. read any bbc news story and they all follow the same predictable formulaic template Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I was referring specifically to TV 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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