Isegrim 9737 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Isegrim said: So, we have a German poster positively radiating schadenfreude on us, quoting a tweet from a polish wagon driver who refers to our wonderful country as, and I quote, the "United Whoredom". This, gentlemen, is why we we were right to leave this vile corrupt organisation. Don't they remember who won the war? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9737 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Renton said: So, we have a German poster positively radiating schadenfreude on us, quoting a tweet from a polish wagon driver who refers to our wonderful country as, and I quote, the "United Whoredom". This, gentlemen, is why we we were right to leave this vile corrupt organisation. Don't they remember who won the war? I would like to feel schadenfreude, but unfortunately it is just utter bewilderment and anger. We had a Christmas parcel that couldn’t get sent in time because if the covid restrictions. We tried to send it after new year and it’s costing more than double to send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15432 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Public apologies from the likes of these please. If we're going to have to live with this shitshow, the least I want to see is some fucking humility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Fuck off. Can’t even sing any more either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3859 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Public apologies from the likes of these please. If we're going to have to live with this shitshow, the least I want to see is some fucking humility. Well at least we haven't got people on gravy trains soaking us dry anymore eh. Edited January 20, 2021 by Kevin Carr's Gloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) this seriously isn't news. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55734277 we have known this would be the case for years now - ever since theresa may's lancaster house speech when the tory party decided that brexit meant leaving the single market. the headline should really be: brexit voters get what they voted for Edited January 21, 2021 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: this seriously isn't news. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55734277 we have known this would be the case for years now - ever since theresa may's lancaster house speech when the tory party decided that brexit meant leaving the single market. the headline should really be: brexit voters get what they voted for Was she a Brexit voter? I think this is news and these issues need to be reported much more, it will impact on all of us. Yes, they were nailed on in 2017, this needs reporting too. It didn't have to be this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Meanwhile, wtaf, are we intentionally winding the EU up? We are refusing to properly recognise the EU ambassador, because the EU is an international body, like NATO, not a nation. Well if this is the case HOW THE HOLY FUCK did it impinge on our so-called sovereignty? What the fuck is happening to us? BBC News - UK and EU in row over bloc's diplomatic status https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55742664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Is there any logic or benefit to us not recognising the EU ambassador? Or are we just being cunts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Is there any logic or benefit to us not recognising the EU ambassador? Or are we just being cunts? It's just more bizarre behaviour. As once signatories to the Lisbon they we recognised the EU's supranational status. Now we don't. But as I say, how does that fit in with us gaining sovereignty? At least in the US they can turn course now and try to right things. We are fucked for at least 4 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Renton said: Was she a Brexit voter? I think this is news and these issues need to be reported much more, it will impact on all of us. Yes, they were nailed on in 2017, this needs reporting too. It didn't have to be this way. I agree. They clearly weren’t informed when they placed the order. The people who sold the ‘Brexit vision’ were extremely reticent about relating this sort of thing and Gloom’s esteemed colleagues in the media were largely quiet about it until it was far too late. Of course it’s ‘news’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Renton said: Was she a Brexit voter? I think this is news and these issues need to be reported much more, it will impact on all of us. Yes, they were nailed on in 2017, this needs reporting too. It didn't have to be this way. i dunno. i'm not blaming her if she isn't. it's the brexit voters that are getting what they wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alex said: I agree. They clearly weren’t informed when they placed the order. The people who sold the ‘Brexit vision’ were extremely reticent about relating this sort of thing and Gloom’s esteemed colleagues in the media were largely quiet about it until it was far too late. Of course it’s ‘news’ Sorry but you cannot blame the media for this. It has been in the public domain since 2017. Ever since then it has been official Tory policy to use Brexit to leave the single market and customs union. Johnson won an election on that basis so it is literally is the opposite of news. At what point do we stop feeling sorry for the fuckheads who voted for this not once but THREE TIMES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 i mean, we all consume mainstream media and we all knew what was coming, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 We were told there would be tariff free access. Most people wouldn't equate that to huge customs and VAT charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: Sorry but you cannot blame the media for this. It has been in the public domain since 2017. Ever since then it has been official Tory policy to use Brexit to leave the single market and customs union. Johnson won an election on that basis so it is literally is the opposite of news. At what point do we stop feeling sorry for the fuckheads who voted for this not once but THREE TIMES? The MSM have been fucking clueless about this man. They can't tell the difference between the single market or customs union, or between a tariff and a non tariff barrier which is what we are seeing. If the MSM had done their job we would not be where we are. Even now, so called quality papers like the Guardian are referring to these "new" regulations. They're not new, they've always been there, its just now they apply to us as a third country. This is a really important point when the gammons start blaming the EU for bullying us. But the MSM are too thick to get it right and the false narrative goes on.... tl/dr: shame on @Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9737 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Renton said: Was she a Brexit voter? I think this is news and these issues need to be reported much more, it will impact on all of us. Yes, they were nailed on in 2017, this needs reporting too. It didn't have to be this way. She can buy happy British clothing now though to go with her fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: sigh Really? You must be the only one who thinks the media have done a good job communicating what Brexit means. The media are as complicit as the tories in the fall of this country. Half of them poisoning peoples minds and the other half either not bothering to understand the issues and/or providing a platform for the fascists on the basis of "fairness". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 IMO the media have Neville Chamberlain'd us into this with consistent appeasement of the nutjobs. It's not balance if one side is entirely making things up - it's muddying the water. What we have needed throughout was for the BBC to put journalistic integrity ahead of its own survival. That's clearly not in the BBC's interests in terms of the people who work for it, but it would have been in the country's interests. And the former explains why it didn't happen, I think. And the rest of the media just fell about it along traditional biases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Sorry but you cannot blame the media for this. It has been in the public domain since 2017. Ever since then it has been official Tory policy to use Brexit to leave the single market and customs union. Johnson won an election on that basis so it is literally is the opposite of news. At what point do we stop feeling sorry for the fuckheads who voted for this not once but THREE TIMES? WERE THE IMPLICATIONS FULLY EXPLAINED BY THE MSM? Were they fuck. The media’s role in this has been, on the whole, shameful. Social media was a big issue too. Are you suggesting the Mail et al. Or the BBC even. Gave a balanced view outlining all the downsides? The Beeb were licking Johnson’s hoop for getting the deal ‘everyone said was impossible’ or words to that effect in the run up to the election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Renton said: Really? You must be the only one who thinks the media have done a good job communicating what Brexit means. The media are as complicit as the tories in the fall of this country. Half of them poisoning peoples minds and the other half either not bothering to understand the issues and/or providing a platform for the fascists on the basis of "fairness". i didn't say "the media" have done a good job. many media companies haven't, some publications have - the ft for example warned of the VAT issue in 2018 but there comes a point where people have to take some personal responsibility. of course certain publications push certain narratives, but a lot of information was in the public realm. the reality is most voters aren't having these kind of conversations and don't want to be informed. they just wanted to get brexit done. a lot of the media are obviously govt mouth pieces but there is enough information out there for people to know what they were voting for had massive implications - workers rights and custom issues are just two examples. both have been reported as news in recent days but we were warned about both issues long before johnson was given a mandate to deliver his hard brexit up the nation's arse without any lube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 42 minutes ago, Alex said: WERE THE IMPLICATIONS FULLY EXPLAINED BY THE MSM? Were they fuck. The media’s role in this has been, on the whole, shameful. Social media was a big issue too. Are you suggesting the Mail et al. Or the BBC even. Gave a balanced view outlining all the downsides? The Beeb were licking Johnson’s hoop for getting the deal ‘everyone said was impossible’ or words to that effect in the run up to the election in some publications, yes they were. of course i'm not saying the mail gave a balanced view, ffs. but then that's the problem when people use the term "MSM" as if all media companies are a single entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 james o'brien has been banging this drum ever since the brexit vote. LBC is pretty fucking mainstream. the information was out there if people wanted to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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