ewerk 30266 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Well SOMEONE is a bit jealous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21311 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Am trying to work out which party he is jealous of now - Kuinsberg or Johnson? Edited October 16, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21311 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Urgh, and now imaging how Kuinsberg got that signature curl on her upper lip. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I'm starting to think Guy Fawkes was right all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44398 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Anorthernsoul said: I'm starting to think Guy Fawkes was right all along. Aye, he was right. Prods are cunts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: How is it that no one has yet been paid to follow Francois around all day playing the tuba? This needs crowdfunded NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44398 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Frankly hilarious. His new deal is illegal by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44398 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 It contravenes a law that the ERG came up with as well. Almost perfection if this turns out to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Francois would be ok with it if it was a heckler threatening to kill a ‘traitor’ though Edited October 16, 2019 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 No Brexit deal tonight according to the Beeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 No surprise there. Doesn’t sound like they’re too far apart though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5183 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Have said a few times that the fucking deal looked like it might be pulled together. I mean he still needs the Tory rebels to make it work but I daresay he'll get them. Plus the Labour ones. I think we could be genuinely done now. And what's worst about it is that this is literally the only scenario where the Tories come out as winners. They will survive this and could ride the wave into the next 5 years. What an absolutely tragic period for the country. It's politically unforgiveable. Still thinking I won't even vote after this, I mean what's the fucking point. Johnson's about to take us to the cleaners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I found this useful...seeing as ewerk couldn’t be arsed to explain it himself his cousin here has been kind enough to explain it for the hard of comprehending. When is Stormont getting the band back together? Or will things just default to the revised backstop until Arlene has finished counting all the billions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 It appears that whilst I was typing the above missive the UVF drag act called it all off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Looking at what has been agreed so far it looks complicated but both sides have genuinely compromised as much as they could have. If Johnson thinks that the DUP will blink now then I fear he may be mistaken. The truth is that the best possible deal for Arlene et al. would have been a soft EFTA style Brexit but yet it isn't something that they ever pushed for. I think they'll be regretting that now. So assuming that Johnson can't get a parliamentary majority for this I reckon he has two options. He can pocket the deal and push for a GE in the hope that he'll get a majority for it in the next parliament. Or he can accept demands to attach a second referendum to the deal in the hope that it will get enough support from the excommunicated Tories and Labour rebels to get through. The Labour Party most likely won't vote for it as they'll claim that it isn't a 'credible leave option' but it may just get enough Labour MPs in Leave seats to back it to get it over the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21311 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Quote 21 minutes ago, ewerk said: Looking at what has been agreed so far it looks complicated but both sides have genuinely compromised as much as they could have. If Johnson thinks that the DUP will blink now then I fear he may be mistaken. The truth is that the best possible deal for Arlene et al. would have been a soft EFTA style Brexit but yet it isn't something that they ever pushed for. I think they'll be regretting that now. So assuming that Johnson can't get a parliamentary majority for this I reckon he has two options. He can pocket the deal and push for a GE in the hope that he'll get a majority for it in the next parliament. Or he can accept demands to attach a second referendum to the deal in the hope that it will get enough support from the excommunicated Tories and Labour rebels to get through. The Labour Party most likely won't vote for it as they'll claim that it isn't a 'credible leave option' but it may just get enough Labour MPs in Leave seats to back it to get it over the line. No way would he go for the latter option imo, but can it be forced on him? Seems the best way out of this. Surely Labour would support it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Renton said: No way would he go for the latter option imo, but can it be forced on him? Seems the best way out of this. Surely Labour would support it? The former option isn't much more palatable. If he goes to the polls now he definitely loses precious votes to the Brexit Party. I'm not sure that the Labour front bench will back a referendum on his deal. Corbyn, Milne and the groupies are set on an election before a referendum and will be worried about what going full remain would do to their prospects in the subsequent general election. But it's hard to predict anything with much certainty these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21311 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Labour have just confirmed they will put Johnson's deal to a referendum. Oh, and Brexit negotiations have been called off any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, Renton said: Labour have just confirmed they will put Johnson's deal to a referendum. Oh, and Brexit negotiations have been called off any way. Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5183 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Now reports that we're back on again, DUP have folded. Until the next update in 10 mins when they've gone back to opposing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5183 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) And the fabled deal has been done, apparently. Fucks sake. Edited October 17, 2019 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Now reports that we're back on again, DUP have folded. Now that's a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21311 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, ewerk said: Eh? Just reporting what the guardian live feed said. Changes all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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