Gemmill 44393 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Judging by the noises coming out of Ireland, this is either gonna get pegged right back to the backstop or it's going in the bin. I've just watched five minutes of Parliament, and watching these pathetic tories get up and commend that big daft blond shite on this mess of a proposal is ridiculous. Soubry had it right when she congratulated him on negotiating a deal with the ERG, the DUP and nobody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 This reminds me of every large organisation I've worked for. Each department working to a policy which always ends up as: "IT WASN'T US IT WAS THEM!" Workplace blame culture infecting democracy. I blame Bill gates and his fuckin spreadsheets for modern day management practices. What a cunt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44393 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 They're all stood calling it a "deal". Hey fuckheads, it's a deal when it gets agreed by the other side. At the minute, all you've got is a proposal. One which it sounds like the other side wouldn't wipe its arse on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5179 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 At the end of the day, they're doing what they have to do to save their party. That's all any of them care about anyway. It's transparent - if the British public fall for it then they're a pack of fucking morons, but in the end there's only so long we can avoid asking them what they think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21307 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Judging by the noises coming out of Ireland, this is either gonna get pegged right back to the backstop or it's going in the bin. I've just watched five minutes of Parliament, and watching these pathetic tories get up and commend that big daft blond shite on this mess of a proposal is ridiculous. Soubry had it right when she congratulated him on negotiating a deal with the ERG, the DUP and nobody else. Stupid pricks talking to themselves again. EU parliament have just declared the proposition as not remotely acceptable. We're in the end game of this phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19891 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21307 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Varadakar gave a very clear presser of what's wrong with deal from their pov, really quite indisputable. Arlene immediately ranting about intransigence and that the RoI is trying to run roughshod over NI unionism Fuck them, all you can do is laugh. The DUP and ERG are fucking ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renton 21307 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 If Johnson colludes with a foreign fascist to get us out the EU against the will of the people what then? Seriously? I dont think Hingary will veto like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Does it matter these days? It’s all about delivering Brexit. The method is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5179 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Renton said: If Johnson colludes with a foreign fascist to get us out the EU against the will of the people what then? Seriously? I dont think Hingary will veto like. If he does, Parliament will revoke. For sure. If Johnson goes that far, he'll have justified an extreme response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11137 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 15 hours ago, Renton said: Imagine if revoke happened, a gammonfest GE resulted, Johnson got a majority, and reinstated A50 again, without a referendum. Of course, technically, that is what Parliament is for - making these decisions - not that I agree with that outcome. 13 hours ago, Rayvin said: At the end of the day, they're doing what they have to do to save their party own jobs. That's all any of them care about anyway. FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15405 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just when you think the low has been reached... Still, I'm sure they'll be queuing up to trade with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I think Gove is one of the more intelligent ones. Which makes him all the more loathsome, given he probably knows exactly what he is doing most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 And a democratic, capitalist, political and economic union of sovereign states is exactly like the Soviet Bloc of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15405 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I don't know about you, but I narrowly missed being taken out by a sniper the last time I crossed the Channel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21813 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 23 hours ago, Renton said: Bit harsh, there will always be arseholes in the party. Anyway, the deal isn't getting as far as Westminster imo. It’s looking that way after comments from Varadkar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Literally everyone in Ireland outside of the DUP is against the proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I take it Arlene has accepted another bung though? Bad for the optics to make it public... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 It’s already public. She’s been promised a ‘New Deal for Northern Ireland’. Arlene, you ain’t gonna get any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21307 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Literally everyone in Ireland outside of the DUP is against the proposal. Dunt made the point this week that the public of the RoI have had no say on Brexit, the public of NI voted against it, and overwhelmingly every political group and institution thinks this deal is disastrous to the island of Ireland. But here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21813 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Renton said: Dunt made the point this week that the public of the RoI have had no say on Brexit, the public of NI voted against it, and overwhelmingly every political group and institution thinks this deal is disastrous to the island of Ireland. But here we are. Fuck what a sovereign nation thinks. The will of the little Englander people (and the welsh) will not be denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44393 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Steve Baker confidently stating that this doesn't mean we will extend. no word from Francois yet, I think he's probably shitting pure aspic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Are we actually witnessing the very public death of the Tory party as we know it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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