Rayvin 5176 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Renton said: In particular, we lack leaders. May and Corbyn aren't leaders. You have people like Bridget, working class lass who made it to Oxford, who is clearly academically bright. But she goes straight into a safe seat in Sunderland with very little real life experience. I'm not sure that is a good background for leadership. It's a similar story for most MPs, including Corbyn and May. The MPs nowadays who I tend to have most time for are the ones from professions, particularly law. There's still no sign of a great leader though. Contrast this with the life experience of someone like Tusk or Merkel, who have come through true adversity and have first hand knowledge of the other side. They are much stronger leaders. Then of course we have the problem with FPtP..... Indeed. It's hard to argue that Blair and, to a lesser extent Brown, weren't the last of their kind in terms of true British statesmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I dunno if it makes much difference really. Some people are born leaders, others aren't. The real life experience thing is normally used to promote the idea that people with pre-parliament careers can relate to ordinary people but looking at the careers most MPs have had in 'real life' I don't think they've had too many dealings with the man in the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44391 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Blyth's Ronnie Campbell up asking a question earlier. That is one stupid human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4181 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Would love a square go with that poem nonce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Blyth's Ronnie Campbell up asking a question earlier. That is one stupid human being. He was asking about the availability of a drug to help a seven year old with cystic fibrosis, you cruel bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44391 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: He was asking about the availability of a drug to help a seven year old with cystic fibrosis, you cruel bastard. Aye and he could barely get the sentence out and pronounced NICE like it was the place in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21306 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Gemmill really is despicable. So, we will soon know our immediate fate. I personally won't be massively surprised if one of the EU27 overturns the apple cart considering how bad May is at doing these presentions. But if we get a near 1 year extension, that would put the referendum nearly 4 years ago. Really hard to say the results is legitimate after that time frame (as well as all the other things wrong with it). I am certain Remain would comfortably win a suitably framed repeat referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44391 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I'm a NICE guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15405 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I thought you were more of a BREST man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44391 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I cannot afford to get into a pun-off with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21306 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 What have you got Toulouse? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 867 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I cannot afford to get into a pun-off with you. Would you say you'd rue it, or are you just Lyon? Personally I'd get bored-eaux after the first two or three puns, especially the unbel-Lille-ably bad ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42066 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Gemmill is greeting Reimed here, the absolute Nancy just Caen’t take it. He’s Metz his match and is Rouen the day he punned-off with Meenz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Shouldn't really call people Nancy these days. What would ye Marseille? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42066 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 She’s a bit Toulon in the tooth to worry about it, which, if I’m honest, Angers me a bit. She’s not as bad as my Anti bes(sy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Gemmill said: Blyth's Ronnie Campbell up asking a question earlier. That is one stupid human being. I fucking hate that cunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alex said: I fucking hate that cunt C’est chatte, si vous plait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Lexiters are honestly worse than Tory Brexiters. I don’t believe that anyone who is a Labour MP does it for anything other than honourable reasons but the fact that the Labour leavers have completely ignored the fact that it’s going to make their constituents worse off and keep voting for Brexit is absolutely shameful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42066 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, Alex said: I fucking hate that cunt 41 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: C’est chatte, si vous plait He fucking chattes that cunt. Voila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 If you want to do a trade deal with one of the emerging global giants shortly then surely an apology might be in order? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-47887322 They won’t forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21306 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 What a surprise. May's speech went down like a fart in a dry suit. France pushing for short extension then out (which May doesn't really want) or just straight out. Who can blame them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Renton said: What a surprise. May's speech went down like a fart in a dry suit. France pushing for short extension then out (which May doesn't really want) or just straight out. Who can blame them? I think we'll still get it. I understand Macron's view but it doesn't sound like anyone else really supports him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 It only takes one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21306 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I think we'll still get it. I understand Macron's view but it doesn't sound like anyone else really supports him. Agreed. May is fucking bonkers. The deal Tusk wants to offer is flexible so that if she can get this WA through, we can leave whenever. But she is deliberately putting pressure on herself. I know this is probably a sop to the ERG but still. Its like when the government were desperate to get the ECJ to find against us having the unilateral right to revoke A50. Trying to take our own options of the table ffs. Ironically our best leverage now. Edited April 10, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: He fucking chattes that cunt. Voila. Zut alors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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