Isegrim 9774 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: If that remains the case, then Corbyn is destroying Labour. No shit. It has been pretty clear that he as much a horrible party leader as a leader of the opposition. He was lucky that an influx of young disgruntled Labour members brought him to the top. But having grabbed power of the party he is mainly rejecting the interests of those who brought him there. I say it again that the tragedy of Brexit is that the stance of remaining and approximate half of you population never had a competent person standing for it. Neither before nor after the dufferdendum has there been someone making a good case for remainers. Something rather absurd for the leader of Labour and the opposition considering the majority stance of his party. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9774 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 What I would Theresa May like to do is to write a letter to the EU and revoke A50 then resign and then make the best of her European freedoms, buying a Villa at the Costa Dorada, moving there and to send the ERG every week a crate of Cava and a Spanish cake to eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ewerk said: In that case the Customs Union appears to be the only thing Corbyn and May disagree on. Oh great, so we're totally fucked after all then. This is why I was down after the first round of indicative votes. Can someone please explain to me what the point of being in the CU is without being in the SM? Seriously, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Some stupid Labour MP bint on R5 now saying staying in the CU will protect agriculture, the car industry, and aerospace. No it fucking won't. They really just don't understand the issues involved. Frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 And now she's talking about cherry picking from the SM.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Confidence vote against May being mooted by 1922. No details whatsoever from Corbyn's meeting other than that it 'went well'. Fuck knows where we're ending up. I'm trusting Keir Starmer on all of this more than Corbyn, although apparently Sturgeon met with him beforehand and was reassured by what he said. Though she could just be over selling it as a pressure move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Confidence vote against May being mooted by 1922. No details whatsoever from Corbyn's meeting other than that it 'went well'. Fuck knows where we're ending up. I'm trusting Keir Starmer on all of this more than Corbyn, although apparently Sturgeon met with him beforehand and was reassured by what he said. Though she could just be over selling it as a pressure move. Thought they had to wait another 11 months for a VoNC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Renton said: Thought they had to wait another 11 months for a VoNC? I'm just relaying what I read in the Graun. Would be hilarious if that was overlooked though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I'm just relaying what I read in the Graun. Would be hilarious if that was overlooked though. It was a vote for an indicative vote for a vote of no confidence, apparently. This is getting silly now. Edited April 3, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Cooper motion passed, 315 to 310. No deal now off the table, prepare for gammon explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Isn't that the third time it's been 'killed' though? What does it actually mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15525 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 It's a scam. The whole thing is a scam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Oh hold on, it's still got to pass at committee stage, scheduled for 10 tonight. All happening very quickly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Isn't that the third time it's been 'killed' though? What does it actually mean? Fuck knows tbh. Parliamentary process is confusing at the best of times, utterly bewildering at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Some concerning signs that if Cooper succeeds later, Corbyn will abandon PV2. No need for him to go for it after that, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9774 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Meenzer said: It's a scam. The whole thing is a scam. There are enough carpets in Westminster for it to get swept under... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Some concerning signs that if Cooper succeeds later, Corbyn will abandon PV2. No need for him to go for it after that, apparently. Maybe the EU will insist on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Has there ever been a thicker fuck in parliament than Ian Lavery? A corrupt cunt as well. Quote At tonight’s special meeting of the Shadow Cabinet, Ian Lavery said “this party could be finished by a People’s Vote” and warned Jeremy Corbyn he would be the leader who split Labour if he backed one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 It's finished if it doesn't back one IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21620 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, Rayvin said: It's finished if it doesn't back one IMO. Pardon? Have you turned into Gollum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 The Labour Party is finished if it doesn't back a People's Vote, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 And Cooper fails... What is the point in any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Corbyn/May talks essentially pointless as she offered nothing apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I stand corrected. It seems they may have rejected an amendment to it. Even the Guardian doesn't know what's going on anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Andrew said: Corbyn/May talks essentially pointless as she offered nothing apparently. Yeah I noticed that. Reassuring in a way since I don't trust Corbyn not to "compromise" on FOM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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