ewerk 30266 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Quote Speed limiting technology looks set to become mandatory for all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022, after new rules were provisionally agreed by the EU. The Department for Transport said the system would also apply in the UK, despite Brexit. So much control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 You're just too reactionary ewerk. Honestly, say he makes that statement - "We will revoke A50 in that scenario". What useful strategic purpose does that statement serve? It boxes them in and grants the initiative to the Tories. It may well be true that they will revoke A50 in that situation (I'm actually kind of encouraged by the statement truthfully) but telling us now gives them no political advantage whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) You demand honesty from the government but not the opposition? You think the government should rule out no deal but not the opposition? Where along the way did you lose your principles? On 2/21/2019 at 12:32, Rayvin said: There needs to be some fucking honesty with the public: "This has been an unmitigated disaster, we were poorly prepared and carried everything out incorrectly. The risk now if we proceed is that there are real and serious consequences for the lives of all British people, job losses and shortages of vital products. The only responsible action for us to take here is to cancel Article 50 Edited March 27, 2019 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, ewerk said: You demand honesty from the government but not the opposition? You think the government should rule out no deal but not the opposition? Where along the way did you lose your principles? Apart from just trying to wind me up, those are two different issues. The government has a responsibility to do the best for the nation - that was my point. Revoking A50 clearly is that and the government can choose to carry it out. The opposition also have this responsibility, but lack the power to make it a reality. Therefore, the most responsible course of action for them is to position themselves as best they can to exert maximum influence on the process to the end of not destroying the country. Which I would argue, given the strategically null value of making the claim you want him to at this point, is exactly what they're doing. -drops mic- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 So you want Labour to lie through their teeth and then expect them to suddenly become whiter than white once in power? Also, the government do not have the power to revoke Art. 50 by themselves, it would require help from Labour to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, ewerk said: So you want Labour to lie through their teeth and then expect them to suddenly become whiter than white once in power? Also, the government do not have the power to revoke Art. 50 by themselves, it would require help from Labour to do so. Sure but the government swinging for it would allow Labour to fall in behind without electoral punishment. And no, I don't expect them to lie. I just don't expect them to state things that don't need to be stated since we're in a high stakes game of chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gemmill 44389 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Labour are whipping for the Beckett and Kyle/Wilson amendments according to Peston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 What does Preston say though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ewerk 30266 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Christ, Laura Pidock is thick as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44389 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Is she the wildly Geordie one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44389 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Fabricant man. Who is voting for that cunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44389 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 What's this patter about the govt trying to shut down the indicative votes? They're apparently whipping against the motion in the hope people will have changed their minds. May is fucking deranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Labour are whipping for the Beckett and Kyle/Wilson amendments according to Peston. The most sensible one of the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 So in an affirmative referendum, would the government now be voting (leave) their deal? Would Labour have to come out as a remain party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Is she the wildly Geordie one? Aye, struggling to answer anything at all on Politics Live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sonatine 11307 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Fabricant man. Who is voting for that cunt? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) i can't tell what's real and what's parody anymore Edited March 27, 2019 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Surely he can’t look himself in the mirror anyway Edited March 27, 2019 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 https://twitter.com/henrymance/status/1110917516623257600 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44389 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Check out @tompeck’s Tweet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Bercow reiterates that May's deal cannot be brought before the house again without changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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