PaddockLad 17079 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 From the paper that brought us the Watergate scandal.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/the-more-we-learn-about-brexit-the-more-crooked-it-looks/2019/03/08/b011517c-411c-11e9-922c-64d6b7840b82_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Renton said: So, a question (other than to the Boldon mackem) . If this week in parliament the following happens (seems likely), what happens next? 1. May's deal voted down. 2. No deal rejected. 3. Extension accepted. 4. EU says no extension unless there is a referendum (possibly without no deal as an option). This would mean we'd have to have a referendum or withdraw A50 completely wouldn't it? Or have I missed something? Looking at this picture it would appear that Mays ultimate goal of keeping the Tory party mostly together might just work. Unlikely that Rees Mogg and the rest of the Euro loonies will do the principled thing and fuck off and form their own party now UKIP stands with Yaxley Lennon & his Polish nazi mates. So the row over Europe on the Tory back benches that caused the referendum in the first place will just go on and on and on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) There is no point of an extension without a referendum, we would just be prolonging the inevitable. It's looking increasingly like a May deal vs remain referendum. Or we simply y crash out. This is the definitive week I reckon. I fucking hope May loses MV2. She should, because its exactly the same as MV1. I thought it was undemocratic having repeat votes anyway. Edited March 10, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 If we're going to have another vote, the voters who voted to leave should vote to decide whether there should be a vote on whether there should be a vote for the voters who voted to leave. Its got nowt to do with the voters who voted to remain. They lost so fuck them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15405 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Leaving is for cowards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32728 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 There was no vote in may 1970 to take the Fulwell end. Fuck them all, Essembee! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Essembee turning up right on cue to reinforce the scientists’ point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 hours ago, essembeeofsunderland said: If we're going to have another vote, the voters who voted to leave should vote to decide whether there should be a vote on whether there should be a vote for the voters who voted to leave. Its got nowt to do with the voters who voted to remain. They lost so fuck them. I feel similarly about thick cunts such as yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4371 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Presumably the leaver cunts who've died since would have their votes counted again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 And still they peddle easily provable lies to the public. They honestly have zero shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Talking heed on 5live just said that Barnier & May spoke last night. He's apparently said to her: "go and get a majority for SOMETHING this week and the EU27 will discuss it next week" May will probably get a majority if there's an amendment introduced which puts some limits on the proposals for the backstop. Still can't see the EU going for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I'm running out of words to describe our current crop of politicians. You can't promise another vote on your deal and when it's going to be inevitably defeated, switch it for a fantasy deal that you're never going to get. Time to just be fucking honest for a change rather than dragging this shit out even longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 The fairest way to solve this now would be a 2 stage referendum. Leave v Remain and if leave won, deal v no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: The fairest way to solve this now would be a 2 stage referendum. Leave v Remain and if leave won, deal v no deal. Far too risky because of idots like you being manipulated by Russian backed propaganda, as has been proven to have happened last time. In fact, its happening right now. May has negotiated a deal the EU has accepted. The referendum should be her deal vs. Remain, full stop. The EU probably won't countenance an extension for anything else, they need an end to uncertainty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 53 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: The fairest way to solve this now would be a 2 stage referendum. Leave v Remain and if leave won, deal v no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44390 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: The fairest way to solve this now would be a 2 stage referendum. Leave v Remain and if leave won, deal v no deal. We can't let stupid cunts vote on deal v no deal. Its too important to put in the hands of the public. Walk down the street and look at the people around you. They cannot be allowed to decide this when they can't even fucking dress themselves properly. There are still apparently morons about who think that no deal means no Brexit. You can't run a referendum in the modern age anyway, when Facebook is rife with bullshit ads funded by dark money. Which is why this should NEVER have happened and why any politician with any courage would have seized on the illegalities of the referendum campaign and canceled the result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44390 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Dominic Raab giving a speech outlining his leadership credentials. Where do these cunts get the balls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gemmill said: We can't let stupid cunts vote on deal v no deal. Its too important to put in the hands of the public. Walk down the street and look at the people around you. They cannot be allowed to decide this when they can't even fucking dress themselves properly. There are still apparently morons about who think that no deal means no Brexit. You can't run a referendum in the modern age anyway, when Facebook is rife with bullshit ads funded by dark money. Which is why this should NEVER have happened and why any politician with any courage would have seized on the illegalities of the referendum campaign and canceled the result. 100% agree. The last point is true as well. The irony being if the referendum had been mandatory, the result would have been legally annulled. But it was advisory, and our gutless politicians refuse to do what's right. So in this case, an advisory referendum has become somehow mandatory whereas a mandatory olreferendum would have been cancelled. We've got to change the law so that politicians caught blatantly lying can be held to legal account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, Gemmill said: We can't let stupid cunts vote on deal v no deal. Its too important to put in the hands of the public. Walk down the street and look at the people around you. They cannot be allowed to decide this when they can't even fucking dress themselves properly. There are still apparently morons about who think that no deal means no Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Meenzer 15405 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I know, banker wankers yadda yadda, but we're talking about the country's tax base here. Not much point in a Corbyn-shaped redistributor taking charge of a country that has nothing left to redistribute. That said, I increasingly don't see the point in a second referendum even if it results in a Remain vote. The damage, both actual and reputational, has already been done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9733 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: We can't let stupid cunts vote on deal v no deal. Its too important to put in the hands of the public. Walk down the street and look at the people around you. They cannot be allowed to decide this when they can't even fucking dress themselves properly. There are still apparently morons about who think that no deal means no Brexit. You can't run a referendum in the modern age anyway, when Facebook is rife with bullshit ads funded by dark money. Which is why this should NEVER have happened and why any politician with any courage would have seized on the illegalities of the referendum campaign and canceled the result. Referenda have been proven to be stupid ideas when they paved the way for the Nazis here 100 years ago. That’s why they got abolished. Even back then it got proven how easily people can get misled by demagogues . The Brexit example should be the final nail in the coffin of referenda tbh. Not to mention the stupidity to let women and the likes of CT vote as well... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Meenzer said: I know, banker wankers yadda yadda, but we're talking about the country's tax base here. Not much point in a Corbyn-shaped redistributor taking charge of a country that has nothing left to redistribute. That said, I increasingly don't see the point in a second referendum even if it results in a Remain vote. The damage, both actual and reputational, has already been done. Largely agree although it’s important to limit the damage as much as possible at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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