Dr Gloom 21812 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, ewerk said: There’s pretty much nothing that will get through Parliament. Back to the people. I can’t see a vote to put it back to the people getting through Parliament either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 59 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: It’s all Labour’s fault but he’ll still vote for Corbyn. And he definitely won’t change his mind in Brexit: leave means leave. But he’ll vote remain if there was another referendum tomorrow. It's hilarious that this is actually his position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Ok so, what does today's fiasco mean for Brexit? Any ideas? May is fucked. That one looks solidly predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Does anyone honestly even care about all those amazing trade deals we won’t do? They’re all queuing up from the Faroe Islands to... May’s last red like standing, I think, will be leaving the SM and ending FoM. At least then we can stop pretending Brexit was ever about anything else. But leaving the SM wouldn't solve the NI border problem. And she will never give up that. So no WA imo and crash out. Edited February 14, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15404 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The Maybot cannot be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: I can’t see a vote to put it back to the people getting through Parliament either Call it the Princess Diana amendment and you’ll instantly have the support of the Express and the Daily Mail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Meenzer said: The Maybot cannot be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Informative twitter thread. This guy is the political editor of the Economist, so might be considered an expert, so should probably be ignored. Still..... https://twitter.com/JohnGPeet/status/1096069574506807297?s=19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11307 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6713413/Billionaire-Brexiteer-Sir-James-Ratcliffe-relocates-Monaco-bid-save-4bn-tax.html It's almost as if these Brexiteer cunts aren’t actually that interested in what’s best for the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Sonatine said: At least the police had the good sense not to wear their high vis this time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 'Will of the people'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15404 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 BAMFU Japanese carmaker Honda is set to announce the closure of its Swindon plant in 2022, putting 3,500 jobs at risk, sources say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Nice one, @Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 "Honda are clear this is based on global trends and not Brexit, as all European market production will consolidate in Japan in 2021." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheGingerQuiff said: "Honda are clear this is based on global trends and not Brexit, as all European market production will consolidate in Japan in 2021." Do Honda have any non-UK EU plants? We are about to have no trade deal with the EU AND Japan. Of course this is Brexit related. Nissan will most definitely follow suit. Edited February 18, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10732 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 10/25/2018 at 17:32, The Fish said: I have a prediction; When Brexit results in the UK's economy stagnating or declining, the blame will fall on the Remainers, the experts, the EU, the rest of the World, the immigrants who left, the immigrants who stayed. I predict CT and his ilk will steadfastly refuse to accept that the responsibility lies with the Tory party, UKIP, and the turkeys who voted for Christmas. If I'm wrong, my prediction is here on the internet where it'll live in perpetuity. I'll admit I was wrong. Already happening I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, Renton said: Do Honda have any non-UK EU plants? We are about to have no trade deal with the EU AND Japan. Of course this is Brexit related. Nissan will most definitely follow suit. Why would they make a decision based on Brexit when they don't know the outcome of Brexit? Anyway the EU/Japan trade deal means they can build in Japan and access the eu which I suspect is the biggest factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Renton said: Do Honda have any non-UK EU plants? We are about to have no trade deal with the EU AND Japan. Of course this is Brexit related. Nissan will most definitely follow suit. I expect this is just coincidence http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focus/eu-japan-economic-partnership-agreement/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Probably a factor in Nissans recent u-turn too. Bit of a shit shower courtesy of the eu, it has to be said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Why, what’s wrong with an economic bloc acting in its own interest? They don’t owe us any favours and will want to send a message to populists in other EU states that they’re stronger in. And to trump and other protectionists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Why, what’s wrong with an economic bloc acting in its own interest? They don’t owe us any favours and will want to send a message to populists in other EU states that they’re stronger in. And to trump and other protectionists I'd be surprised if Japanese companies shifting production back to Japan is limited to Britain though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Why would they make a decision based on Brexit when they don't know the outcome of Brexit? Anyway the EU/Japan trade deal means they can build in Japan and access the eu which I suspect is the biggest factor Because being out of the single market is one of May's red lines. Out of the SM means tariffs until an FTA can be negotiated (a decade away or maybe never) but more importantly NTB's which will kill JiT supply chain. Meaning the Civic is no longer viable. The FTA with Japan we helped negotiate is the icing on the cake, or more like final nail in the coffin. But if we were still in the SM, Swindon would hve remained competitive because of cheaper labour and transport costs and times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Renton said: Because being out of the single market is one of May's red lines. Out of the SM means tariffs until an FTA can be negotiated (a decade away or maybe never) but more importantly NTB's which will kill JiT supply chain. Meaning the Civic is no longer viable. The FTA with Japan we helped negotiate is the icing on the cake, or more like final nail in the coffin. But if we were still in the SM, Swindon would hve remained competitive because of cheaper labour and transport costs and times. We are still in the SM though, why wouldn't they wait for the outcome of Brexit before making a decision if that were truly the catalyst for this? The telling indicator is that they're shifting production back to Japan, leaving them with no eu presence at all if I'm not mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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