Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 What they voting on next, what fucking shoes she's wearing tomorrow? A colossal set of cunts if ever there was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30296 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 The view we’ve all been waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15412 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 He of all people should know that the EU is just waiting to pelanise us. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4720 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, ewerk said: The view we’ve all been waiting for. Chris will have enjoyed the benefit of the older form of freedom of movement in his 3 years playing for Marseille. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30296 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Quote Five cabinet ministers — David Gauke, Amber Rudd, David Lidington, Greg Clark and Mr Hammond — want Mrs May to bring back her deal for a vote as early as next week. They then want the Commons to hold a series of “indicative” votes on every conceivable option, from a no-deal Brexit, a Canada-style agreement, a single market and customs union to a second referendum. “They will all fail,” one cabinet minister said. “At that point we will probably be able to rule out no-deal and Canada.” As predicted, parliament is completely divided. The only way to settle this is another referendum, it's the only legitimate democratic way to resolve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42106 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 If there is a 2nd referendum, what alternatives can be used to the previous “ Remain/Leave” shitshow to rule out the illegal bollocks the Leave campaign resorted too? One, transparent and independent body to present pro/con facts without prejudice? Is that feasible or am I being a bit wooly hippy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30296 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Given the tight time frame for another referendum I don't think there's time for any radical reform to the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21364 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ewerk said: As predicted, parliament is completely divided. The only way to settle this is another referendum, it's the only legitimate democratic way to resolve this. It makes sense to do that. Therefore won't happen, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21364 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: If there is a 2nd referendum, what alternatives can be used to the previous “ Remain/Leave” shitshow to rule out the illegal bollocks the Leave campaign resorted too? One, transparent and independent body to present pro/con facts without prejudice? Is that feasible or am I being a bit wooly hippy? This is what happens in the Republic of Ireland, where they are set up for referenda. We should send JRM out there on a fact finding mission. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30296 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 A long thread but everything in it could have come from a single conversation with CT. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34877 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 18 hours ago, ewerk said: The view we’ve all been waiting for. I would imagine a millionaire ex-footballer who still works in the media would be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4702 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ewerk said: A long thread but everything in it could have come from a single conversation with CT. Oh joy, another foreign europhile telling us what Brexit is really about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 europhile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30296 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Oh joy, another foreign europhile telling us what Brexit is really about. He ain’t far wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17112 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Oh joy, another foreign europhile telling us what Brexit is really about. “ O wad some power the gift tae gie us, tae see oorsels as ithers see us...” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4720 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Tom said: europhile He couldn't have summed himself up better. "Bloody foreigners telling me things I don't understand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21364 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said: Oh joy, another foreign europhile telling us what Brexit is really about. Did you read it. I think it was spot on, particularly the premise that the UK wants the benefits of membership (frictionless access to a huge market) without the obligations (FoM and payments). Now if you agree that this cakeism is true (or as you call it, "a cracking deal"), you have to ask yourself why the UK alone, or really England actually, demands this when none of the other EU27 do. The answer is clearly because of English exceptionalism. It's written across the face of every gammon I've had the misfortune to meet. I think with you CT the penny is finally dropping, even if you can't admit it. And it's fucking funny. Edited December 13, 2018 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4720 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Meanwhile from the "eurosceptic" camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30296 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) ‘We’d have walked if it weren’t for that pesky murdered MP’. Edited December 14, 2018 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4702 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Renton said: Did you read it. I think it was spot on, particularly the premise that the UK wants the benefits of membership (frictionless access to a huge market) without the obligations (FoM and payments). Well you would think it was spot on because you too are a self confessed europhile. Unfortunately it’s the minority view within the U.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30296 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Tell us again, CT, what your reasons were for voting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4702 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, ewerk said: Tell us again, CT, what your reasons were for voting out. Search them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30296 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 A man of his convictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21364 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 48 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Well you would think it was spot on because you too are a self confessed europhile. Unfortunately it’s the minority view within the U.K. Are you denying Johnson literally said we could have our cake and eat it? And you believed him? Liking Europe has nowt to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4373 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) I think it's summed up by this British empire/superiority trope that it describes. The amount of language from leavers harking back to ww2 or when Britain ruled the waves and other such nonsense is obvious in its influence. No concept of how the 21st century world is or works whatsoever. There was a piece I read today mentioning how leave had broad canvas ideals like "take back control" etc which appeal to people who have no interest in details - however it didn't expand on that to show the same shit with Trump's "make America great again" etc. Basically the world if full of shallow brained morons who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near anything important. Edited December 13, 2018 by NJS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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