ewerk 30616 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Well that's up to the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renton 21627 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, ewerk said: Well that's up to the EU. It's mad. We need unanimous consent to extend A50, but can unilaterally withdraw it. Let's hope we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11387 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On her way to collect her P45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 If we had a cross party vote to rescind article 50, who would leavers get annoyed at? They cant vote against all of parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 As much as that would be the best way forward it would be an affront to democracy. The only way it can be legitimately rescinded is following another referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, ewerk said: Well that's up to the EU. They don’t want no deal either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20150 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 What a laughing stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) If May wins, her deal does not get through unless Labour back down. But if her deal goes through, DUP pull support. If May wins and deal falls, she could call a 2nd ref blaming Labour. Therefore quickest route to a GE for Labour is backing May. Edited December 12, 2018 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: They don’t want no deal either No, but the best card they hold is the ticking clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: If May wins, her deal does not get through unless Labour back down. But if her deal goes through, DUP pull support. If May wins and deal falls, she could call a 2nd ref blaming Labour. Therefore quickest route to a GE for Labour is backing May. I don't follow your logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, ewerk said: As much as that would be the best way forward it would be an affront to democracy. The only way it can be legitimately rescinded is following another referendum. It's not an affront to democracy if you believe we have a representative democracy though. MPs are paid to deal with this. The referendum was advisory, after all. If we can't make it work without inflicting huge damage, parliament should have the guts to stop it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Rayvin said: If we had a cross party vote to rescind article 50, who would leavers get annoyed at? They cant vote against all of parliament. The “establishment” ...cue the rise of some awful populist parties. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tommy Robinson going head to head with Russell Brand in the 2023 election at this rate. Edited December 12, 2018 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I'm glad we don't have proportional representation anyway, it only leads to instability and weak governments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Whatever happens next, we have to extend A50 - that is one thing that is clearly in the national interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Renton said: I wonder how many of the cunts really want to own this mess. No Deal or no Brexit, utterly toxic outcomes in one way or another. Plus doesn't the Grieve ammendment still stand? How much power will the new PM really have? I'll make a prediction. If May goes, that arsewipe Johnson won't stand. I get that but hes had a new haircut and hes got a plan about withholding the 39mill till a free deal has agreed with Brussels. He means business this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11387 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 What a cavalcade of cunts we have in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Renton said: I don't follow your logic. Well if Mays deal passes, DUP drop support, May can’t govern = General election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Renton said: It's not an affront to democracy if you believe we have a representative democracy though. MPs are paid to deal with this. The referendum was advisory, after all. If we can't make it work without inflicting huge damage, parliament should have the guts to stop it. Totally agree. I suggested this way out a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Well if Mays deal passes, DUP drop support, May can’t govern = General election. May's deal can't pass without the DUP's support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: May's deal can't pass without the DUP's support. ???? That’s why if Labour vote for it, it forces a GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Mays deal passes = GE Brexiteer PM = GE Mays options are EFTA or 2nd Ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I think this might turn out to be a very good day for Theresa May. She won’t lose the vote and providing the result isn’t tight then this puts to bed the speculation about her future for the next year and puts the ERG back in their box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, ewerk said: I think this might turn out to be a very good day for Theresa May. She won’t lose the vote and providing the result isn’t tight then this puts to bed the speculation about her future for the next year and puts the ERG back in their box. She had a very good PMQ’s (Corbyn awful), she still has to decide what she is going to pivot to as her deal seems dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I guess Nadine Dorries wants David Davis as PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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