ewerk 30266 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Anyone clever enough to do the job would be clever enough not to want it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, ewerk said: Anyone clever enough to do the job would be clever enough not to want it. Yeah but that still rules in almost every politician, of any stripe, in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 @ewerk , Toontastic Northern Ireland correspondent: According to Mrs Mays proposed agreement, am I right in saying that any EU National could in theory fly to Dublin and then enter sovereign UK territory, completely unfettered by beastly UK Border Force officers, at the border between the RoI & the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renton 21306 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: @ewerk , Toontastic Northern Ireland correspondent: According to Mrs Mays proposed agreement, am I right in saying that any EU National could in theory fly to Dublin and then enter sovereign UK territory, completely unfettered by beastly UK Border Force officers, at the border between the RoI & the UK? Yes, no "in theory" about it. The main issues for the backstop concern goods and agriculture, as well as services I guess. The FTA will remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: @ewerk , Toontastic Northern Ireland correspondent: According to Mrs Mays proposed agreement, am I right in saying that any EU National could in theory fly to Dublin and then enter sovereign UK territory, completely unfettered by beastly UK Border Force officers, at the border between the RoI & the UK? Yes. And then on to GB without any passport checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: It's the only way according to Rayvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaddockLad 17079 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 We proles (not me like ) voted out to seal our borders from Johnny Foreigner and this deal doesn’t even deliver it. Am a bit surprised not more has been made of this by the usual suspects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, ewerk said: It's the only way according to Rayvin. The only way to what? I'm not disregarding that other ways are possible, I'm just saying that if I can't have 'remain', I'd rather have 'No Deal' than 'May's Deal'. I'm not sure why this is bothering you so much ewerk It's not like I have the power to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44391 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 May having comfortably the worst day of her career is the only silver lining here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 may's deal is shit, but it's still better than no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: may's deal is shit, but it's still better than no deal. I'm not disputing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21306 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: We proles (not me like ) voted out to seal our borders from Johnny Foreigner and this deal doesn’t even deliver it. Am a bit surprised not more has been made of this by the usual suspects Well there's two things I guess. Ireland aren't in Schenghen so that will keep the darky Africans out. Second, EU citizens crossing still won't have work rights or access to the NHS etc, and will be actively tutted at. Now if Ireland ever joins schenghen..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, Rayvin said: I'm not disputing that. and you still would rather see no deal than may's deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21306 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gemmill said: May having comfortably the worst day of her career is the only silver lining here. You are desperate to comfort her, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21306 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, Dr Gloom said: and you still would rather see no deal than may's deal No deal could lead to a constitutional crisis and some long term benefit? Besides, he's off to France so he doesn't give a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: and you still would rather see no deal than may's deal Yep. No Deal gives the Tories no escape. May's Deal means they'll fudge their way out of this. Also, May's deal means Brexit will happen and I'm prepared to risk No Deal for a shot at Remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, Renton said: No deal could lead to a constitutional crisis and some long term benefit? Besides, he's off to France so he doesn't give a shit. I am not off to France 100% I have no immediate plans to leave, I just know I will if it becomes clear that the country is doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 No deal is brown trousers time, not to be taken lightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Renton said: Well there's two things I guess. Ireland aren't in Schenghen so that will keep the darky Africans out. Second, EU citizens crossing still won't have work rights or access to the NHS etc, and will be actively tutted at. Now if Ireland ever joins schenghen..... NEVER! NEVER! etc etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Yep. No Deal gives the Tories no escape. May's Deal means they'll fudge their way out of this. Also, May's deal means Brexit will happen and I'm prepared to risk No Deal for a shot at Remain. How about doing something crazy like not supporting a failing Labour leadership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 37 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: There have been clowns on every channel for the past 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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