Renton 22407 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 British chambers of commerce and the professional and business services council now effectively asking to stay in SM. End game is approaching. The Tories can't dismiss literally every business as a siren call can they? And yet Corbyn cannot capitalise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, ewerk said: It isn't a matter of whether we believe she can do it, it simply isn't possible. Let's try a very loose anology you might understand. You and the family are out for a walk on holiday and after hours of walking you're all starving and stumble across a McDonalds. You walk in and stride up to the counter and demand a duck pizza. The server politely tells you that they don't serve duck pizza but you're welcome to order anything from the menu in front of you. Again you demand a duck pizza and the server smiles and repeats that it isn't possible. Meanwhile your missus is in your ear telling you that she wants a Whopper and your eldest daugther is shouting that she wants a Zinger Tower meal. Your other two kids are sitting back embarassed at your behaviour and are happy with a Big Mac. Finally you tell the server that the Dominos ten miles down the road will give you a duck pizza and threaten to walk out and go there. The server knows this isn't true but says you're welcome to try. What do you do, CT? Do you take the Big Mac that's on offer or do you wander in the dark looking for your duck pizza? Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22407 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Another guide for CT about our Brexit options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31589 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 https://m.facebook.com/1498276767163730/posts/2093159307675470/ It’s pretty much May’s only chance of a deal. I’m not sure that she’ll be allowed to have freedom of movement on goods alone and it begs the question of what’s the point if we have to blindly follow EU law on goods and agriculture without any input. Its a good effort but I can’t see it flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22407 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, ewerk said: https://m.facebook.com/1498276767163730/posts/2093159307675470/ It’s pretty much May’s only chance of a deal. I’m not sure that she’ll be allowed to have freedom of movement on goods alone and it begs the question of what’s the point if we have to blindly follow EU law on goods and agriculture without any input. Its a good effort but I can’t see it flying. It seems to be an incredibly complicated fudge just to keep the Poles and Romanians out. No other benefits that I can see . Honestly, what's the point? EU immigrants contribute more than they take, do jobs nobody else is willing to do, and additionally jobs we have serious Labour shortages in. They tend to be younger and don't over use the NHS. I can't see this flying with the EU anyway. It still attempts to divide the 4 freedoms which are in any case hugely intertwined. And unless I'm mistaken, this option still requires infrastructure in the NI border. Frankly I think the EU are at a state of resignation with us now. Take BINO a la Norge or fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31589 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I’m not sure whether it requires infrastructure on the border, we’ll have to wait for more details on that. It does appear to scupper a deal with USA as agriculture is one of their priorities for such an agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31589 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Thread. As anyone with half a brain knows, it's likely to take ten years to put into place a system that will see frictionless trade continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35916 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Also, these types of projects are always completed on time, work exactly as they were intended to and are within budget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22407 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I just wish there was a quicker way to achieve frictionless trade . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35916 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Renton said: I just wish there was a quicker way to achieve frictionless trade . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35916 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47075 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Corbyn asking questions about bus routes and bus fares at PMQs. Nailing the key talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35916 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Corbyn asking questions about bus routes and bus fares at PMQs. Nailing the key talking points. He's so unsuited to being a party leader it's untrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22518 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31589 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15866 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I'm just going to leave this here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/04/jaguar-land-rovers-80bn-uk-investment-plan-at-risk-after-hard-brexit Jaguar - £80bn investment. 40,000 jobs. All at risk from the uncertainty surrounding the possibility of hard brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22407 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Meenzer said: I'm just going to leave this here. CT should read this. He won't, but he should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4920 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, Renton said: CT should read this. He won't, but he should. He did and he shouldn’t of If I’ve understood it right, it’s a Wolfiesque “it was the Russians wot done it”. Bollocks. Responsibility for Brexit lies in 1. Our economy - distribution of wealth. 2. Labours open door immigration policy. 3. The crash 4. Austerity Something is definitely wrong with the whole system that won’t be addressed by the Tories or Labour. Its like a giant Ponzi scheme at the minute where we pat ourselves on the back for economic growth, attract higher immigration and repeat while not addressing the impact of that extra population or how everyone seems so busy on life’s treadmill compared to years ago. When women could have a child and not need to rush back to work and a council run nursing home was every few miles not “slaves” running between home visits to hand out 15 minutes of care. Something has gone wrong and the Russians have fuck all to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: He did and he shouldn’t of If I’ve understood it right, it’s a Wolfiesque “it was the Russians wot done it”. Bollocks. Responsibility for Brexit lies in 1. Our economy - distribution of wealth. 2. Labours open door immigration policy. 3. The crash 4. Austerity Something is definitely wrong with the whole system that won’t be addressed by the Tories or Labour. Its like a giant Ponzi scheme at the minute where we pat ourselves on the back for economic growth, attract higher immigration and repeat while not addressing the impact of that extra population or how everyone seems so busy on life’s treadmill compared to years ago. When women could have a child and not need to rush back to work and a council run nursing home was every few miles not “slaves” running between home visits to hand out 15 minutes of care. Something has gone wrong and the Russians have fuck all to do with it. That would be neoliberalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31589 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: He did and he shouldn’t of If I’ve understood it right, it’s a Wolfiesque “it was the Russians wot done it”. Bollocks. Responsibility for Brexit lies in 1. Our economy - distribution of wealth. 2. Labours open door immigration policy. 3. The crash 4. Austerity Something is definitely wrong with the whole system that won’t be addressed by the Tories or Labour. Its like a giant Ponzi scheme at the minute where we pat ourselves on the back for economic growth, attract higher immigration and repeat while not addressing the impact of that extra population or how everyone seems so busy on life’s treadmill compared to years ago. When women could have a child and not need to rush back to work and a council run nursing home was every few miles not “slaves” running between home visits to hand out 15 minutes of care. Something has gone wrong and the Russians have fuck all to do with it. You realise that the EU isn't responsible for most of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22518 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: He did and he shouldn’t of If I’ve understood it right, it’s a Wolfiesque “it was the Russians wot done it”. Bollocks. Responsibility for Brexit lies in 1. Our economy - distribution of wealth. 2. Labours open door immigration policy. 3. Labour’s crash 4. Austerity Something is definitely wrong with the whole system that won’t be addressed by the Tories or Labour. Its like a giant Ponzi scheme at the minute where we pat ourselves on the back for economic growth, attract higher immigration and repeat while not addressing the impact of that extra population or how everyone seems so busy on life’s treadmill compared to years ago. When women could have a child and not need to rush back to work and a council run nursing home was every few miles not “slaves” running between home visits to hand out 15 minutes of care. Something has gone wrong and the Russians have fuck all to do with it. Fyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15866 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: If I’ve understood it right, We can probably stop right there. Meanwhile, it's already Sweden 1 England 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22407 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: He did and he shouldn’t of If I’ve understood it right, it’s a Wolfiesque “it was the Russians wot done it”. Bollocks. Responsibility for Brexit lies in 1. Our economy - distribution of wealth. 2. Labours open door immigration policy. 3. The crash 4. Austerity Something is definitely wrong with the whole system that won’t be addressed by the Tories or Labour. Its like a giant Ponzi scheme at the minute where we pat ourselves on the back for economic growth, attract higher immigration and repeat while not addressing the impact of that extra population or how everyone seems so busy on life’s treadmill compared to years ago. When women could have a child and not need to rush back to work and a council run nursing home was every few miles not “slaves” running between home visits to hand out 15 minutes of care. Something has gone wrong and the Russians have fuck all to do with it. Shouldn't of How the fuck is that Wolfiesque? This, coming from the man who doesn't believe in the moon landings. Perhaps you could address the points you don't agree with it do you literally believe the west has not been in ideological conflict with Russia for the past century? Staggering. Remind me who is Wolfiesque again. Edited July 5, 2018 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22407 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rayvin said: That would be neoliberalism. In your opinion, does Denmark work within a neoliberal framework? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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