Europe --- In or Out

[Andrew 5518]

  On 08/05/2018 at 10:08, SpaceCadet said:

 

We were never going to put all of our eggs into the EU basket regardless of how negotiations were going to pan out. Trade with the EU would be welcome but the world is a big place.

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Aye mate, most of it is covered in water or full of poor people.

[ewerk 34167]

 

Bulldog spirit, that's what we need. Fucking manchild.

[Alex 37708]

Trade deal with the lost city of Atlantis? With their pure blooded, Nordic ancestry they should be perfect

 

[Alex 37708]

  On 08/05/2018 at 10:16, ewerk said:

 

Bulldog spirit, that's what we need. Fucking manchild.

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Apart from anything (i.e. apart from it being utterly meaningless drivel) does he not fucking realise that was fostered in a spirit of adversity?

[ewerk 34167]

Rationing, a broke government, no NHS. Pretty much Britain in ten years time.

[PaddockLad 19623]

  On 08/05/2018 at 10:01, SpaceCadet said:

I have a feeling that soon enough the largest part of our trade will be with the US. 

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And what do you think the Yanks will get in return from us after begging them to save out arses again? My money's on full unfettered access for the giant US private health companies to the dear old NHS.

 

 

[ewerk 34167]

And free trade in agriculture, which will pretty much kill off much of that industry in this country.

[ewerk 34167]

 Coming from a leaver that's quite the statement. How about putting a bit of meat on the bones of your argument that there's a big wide world out there to trade with that we've been unable to trade with in the EU?

[Alex 37708]

  On 08/05/2018 at 10:31, SpaceCadet said:

So much hyperbole 

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So much irony

[Andrew 5518]

Stop talking Britain down!

[Rayvin 6435]

The argument isn't over though. The argument will continue until someone comes up with a better option for how we can grow in the future, than staying in the EU.

 

You must realise that in 20-30 years time, we're going to do this again, and we'll vote back in again. There is no better alternative to being in the EU - certainly not that has been presented so far.

[Alex 37708]

  On 08/05/2018 at 10:56, SpaceCadet said:

The argument is over the referendum has ended and the election has been decided. The question now is about how we can grow in future.

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[Dr Gloom 24240]

i'm so bored of brexit. it obviously isn't going to happen, so i've tuned out of the daily noise. 

[Alex 37708]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:07, Dr Gloom said:

i'm so bored of brexit. it obviously isn't going to happen, so i've tuned out of the daily noise. 

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They've lost, they just need a while to get over it.

[Christmas Tree 5335]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:07, Dr Gloom said:

i'm so bored of brexit. it obviously isn't going to happen, so i've tuned out of the daily noise. 

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Ditto’ish

[ewerk 34167]

  On 08/05/2018 at 10:56, SpaceCadet said:

The argument is over the referendum has ended and the election has been decided. The question now is about how we can grow in future.

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Okay, so how will we grow in the future?

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:23, ewerk said:

Okay, so how will we grow in the future?

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By using our bulldog spirit. Pay attention.

[ewerk 34167]

What trade deals are ready to go?

[Dr Gloom 24240]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:35, SpaceCadet said:

 

Our international trade minister has been travelling the world over the past 12 months negotiating trade deals. I couldn't think of a better start. 

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You couldn’t think of a better start than Dr Fox, international man of mystery?

[ewerk 34167]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:44, SpaceCadet said:

 

We will all find out in March. Dr Liam Fox said a few months ago that there are more than 40 deals lined up and I'm sure having much less red tape than the EU there will be much more room for manuver. 

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You're full of shit seeing as we can't negotiate any trade deals until we leave the EU, so he hasn't been negotiating anything. What he has been trying to do is roll over the existing EU deal with third countries. So these deals won't see us gaining anything.

[Alex 37708]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:44, SpaceCadet said:

 

We will all find out in March. Dr Liam Fox said a few months ago that there are more than 40 deals lined up and I'm sure having much less red tape than the EU there will be much more room for manuver. 

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Promised there would be 40, then changed that to hoping there would be 40. Here's a list of the ones he's secured so far:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Alex 37708]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:47, ewerk said:

 

You're full of shit seeing as we can't negotiate any trade deals until we leave the EU, so he hasn't been negotiating anything. What he has been trying to do is roll over the existing EU deal with third countries. So these deals won't see us gaining anything.

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Well, the chief civil servant in Fox's department did recently say that there could be a loss of trade deals with around 40 countries on the day we leave, so maybe that's where the Secretary of State for International Trade plucked that number from.

[ewerk 34167]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:49, SpaceCadet said:

Time will tell.

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No. Time won't tell, it's a fact. We cannot negotiate new deals with any other countries while we're part of the EU.

[Alex 37708]

We've got loads of time and we've really put the EU in its place in the negotiations so far

[ewerk 34167]

  On 08/05/2018 at 11:51, Alex said:

Well, the chief civil servant in Fox's department did recently say that there could be a loss of trade deals with around 40 countries on the day we leave, so maybe that's where the Secretary of State for International Trade plucked that number from.

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We're weak and the rest of the world knows it. Not a single country is going to want to do us any favours.