Dr Gloom 21914 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I see the Times have also come out of favour of remain. Surprising given who their owner is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 at Renton's completley irrational hatred of the worlds most placid man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21599 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 at Renton's completley irrational hatred of the worlds most placid man "I don't blame him for being where he is or have a personal opinion on him." Complete irrational hatred of the world's most placid man. It's 3 quid labour members like you I blame, not Corbyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Fyp Good job you edited it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17245 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 "I don't blame him for being where he is or have a personal opinion on him." Complete irrational hatred of the world's most placid man. It's 3 quid labour members like you I blame, not Corbyn Just out of interest do you think remain would be in a better position with a Burnham or AN Other in charge of the party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21599 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Just out of interest do you think remain would be in a better position with a Burnham or AN Other in charge of the party?Most definitely. At the very least, he would have made an effort and would have put some passion into the Remain camp. I think he understands the issues of the drift by working class (for a better word) towards Brexit too, much more so than Brown or Blair. I think Brexit has come about from a perfect storm of circumstances. A bit butterfly effect, but for instance if the right Miliband had been elected, I honestly can't see the conservatives having got a majority, in fact they may have been able to form a minority coalition. Then there would have been no referendum. Edited June 18, 2016 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17245 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Most definitely. At the very least, he would have made an effort and would have put some passion into the Remain camp. I think he understands the issues of the drift by working class (for a better word) towards Brexit too, much more so than Brown or Blair. I think Brexit has come about from a perfect storm of circumstances. A bit butterfly effect, but for instance if the right Miliband had been elected, I honestly can't see the conservatives having got a majority, in fact they may have been able to form a minority coalition. Then there would have been no referendum. Yeah, sadly not many of us got to vote in person for Davey the mackem Wonder if his favourite yank cougar could tempt him back if she beats Trump?... It'll be interesting to see what happens in the event of Brexit to say the least....even if it's a narrow "stay" vote, it may not be beyond the realms of possibility that the likes of Bradshaw, Creasy and Kinnock jnr etc will in a strange way be galvanised by the horrific events of of Thursday and in some way "save" what reimains of a pro Europe Labour... Edited June 18, 2016 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17245 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 In other, fairly horrific, news... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/18/thomas-mair-charged-with-of-mp-jo-cox?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Good job you edited it Yes, now it makes sense. Unlike any of your posts in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 In other, fairly horrific, news... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/18/thomas-mair-charged-with-of-mp-jo-cox?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other What a scum bag. No different to those jihadist wankers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 "I don't blame him for being where he is or have a personal opinion on him." Complete irrational hatred of the world's most placid man. It's 3 quid labour members like you I blame, not Corbyn Sticking a one line disclaimer in doesn't compensate for the months of angry posts you've been typing about him That's like Stevie's 'I'm not racist but...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Edited June 18, 2016 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21599 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Sticking a one line disclaimer in doesn't compensate for the months of angry posts you've been typing about him That's like Stevie's 'I'm not racist but...' Sorry, you bought up this so called irrational hatred, when I was in fact perfectly rational and measured. If you can, why don't you link me to a post where I have showed genuine hatred towards Corbyn (not to be mistaken with disapproval BTW). Of course, iirc you have called me a racist recently anyway. You probably lack the awareness to realise that in itself is canny crass and offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I can't be arsed finding it but your drunken meltdown where you were talking to yourself in here and calling me,among other posters, 'cunts' iirc for voting for Corbyn That's crasserer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21599 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I can't be arsed finding it but your drunken meltdown where you were talking to yourself in here and calling me,among other posters, 'cunts' iirc for voting for Corbyn That's crasserer Your first reaction to the Paris shootings was to blame Cameron. That's even crassererer. What a sanctimonious dick you can be btw I've certainly never made it a secret I predicted Corbyn would be a disaster for the labour party, and I stand by that. I also don't respect him as a leader because he is an intellectual featherweight and made a career out of back bench contrariness which would make CT proud. But hate him? Naah. I don't think I've ever said that, as you well know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Latest Nursing Times poll shows more support for leave than remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30585 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Any news on which way the Angling Times are leaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21599 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Latest Nursing Times poll shows more support for leave than remain. That's really surprising, although I'd question the methodology and the 2% is well within the margin of error. Still, I'd have thought it be 2 or 3 to 1 in support of remain. I personally don't know of anyone in medicine or medical research who aren't ardently remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30585 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Yeah but if any of those nurses were in any way intelligent then they'd be doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 First of the Sunday paper polls is out (observer) with a 44/44 tie. When pushed, the don't knows swung to remain. Similar to the general election. People happy to vent but will revert to safety first in the booth. Another win for project fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21599 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 First of the Sunday paper polls is out (observer) with a 44/44 tie. When pushed, the don't knows swung to remain. Similar to the general election. People happy to vent but will revert to safety first in the booth. Another win for project fear. Preferable to a win from project lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Will we see shy leavers follow the shy Tories that skewed the polls in the GE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Will we see shy leavers follow the shy Tories that skewed the polls in the GE? Well there's 4 undecideds in the toontastic poll I always suspected there was a few shy Tories on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21599 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Will we see shy leavers follow the shy Tories that skewed the polls in the GE?Shy leavers? They're shouting it from the roof tops outside metropolitan London, and proud of it. If any of them are shy, it'll be a massacre against remain. Think CT has got a point though. I'm hoping that, when it comes to it, people will take a rational view in their own self interests. Leave is a complete step into the unknown. Project fear, as CT puts it, is the independent view of virtually every expert out there. When push comes to shove, I'm hoping the undecided think it's not worth the risk. Because it clearly isn't. Edited June 18, 2016 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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