Renton 22025 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I was under the impression that mid level skilled immigrants had made a dent in earnings (plumbers, builders, etc). Makes sense as a supply and demand issue as well. The more workers there are, the less you pay. In fact I'd be interested to see evidence that it hasn't as I thought this was the only point that could legitimately be made in favour of Brexit. That said, our expectations have changed now, and I strongly doubt that low skilled British people will want the same jobs that their EU equivalents were doing. Moreover we'll lose more jobs in the long run if we're not able to come up with a rather stunning trade agreement. Vince cable claimed last week there are several empirical studies by the treasury. proving the effect is marginal. But may has buried them. I'm still on this fucking train btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5329 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, Renton said: Vince cable claimed last week there are several empirical studies by the treasury. proving the effect is marginal. But may has buried them. I'm still on this fucking train btw! I don't entirely trust Cable but ok. In general I think you have to consider that something has changed in society when once upon a time it was possible to have single earner households and now it isn't for the vast majority of people. It'd be interesting to see this discussed, although even if the EU has had a detrimental affect here, I would still say that it more than makes up for it elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Look at where the largest chunk of household income goes and that'll answer your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The iPhone X will cost $999 (£999 in the UK) Thanks, Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22025 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Christ. A grand! WTF can it do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5329 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, ewerk said: Look at where the largest chunk of household income goes and that'll answer your question. Fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4413 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Anecdotal but the lack of skilled workmen in the construction industry is killing us. Its driving wages up since the tradesmen can just move jobs whenever they are offered a pay rise. The bigger companies can manage the pay rises, the smaller ones can't. Once the skilled foreign workers leave it's only going to get worse. Total lack of pushing decent apprenticeships by successive governments and the complete bollocks up by the CITB means there isn't even kids going into trades to keep it stable as is, never mind if there is a push on house building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, Renton said: Christ. A grand! WTF can it do? Nothing that I can see you can't get from other brands. I've had iPhones since the 3G came out. Not any more. I'll be getting a Samsung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, strawb said: Anecdotal but the lack of skilled workmen in the construction industry is killing us. Its driving wages up since the tradesmen can just move jobs whenever they are offered a pay rise. The bigger companies can manage the pay rises, the smaller ones can't. Once the skilled foreign workers leave it's only going to get worse. Total lack of pushing decent apprenticeships by successive governments and the complete bollocks up by the CITB means there isn't even kids going into trades to keep it stable as is, never mind if there is a push on house building. Same goes with the engineering industry over here. Businesses can't get skilled welders. It sounds like a fairly basic trade but there's a huge lack of it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, ewerk said: Nothing that I can see you can't get from other brands. I've had iPhones since the 3G came out. Not any more. I'll be getting a Samsung. I've had Samsungs since the s3 and I'm fucking them off. Their aftersales customer service is fucking shocking... if anything goes wrong and you tell them they'll start asking you a minefield of questions to see if they can void your warranty before they even look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15742 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Amazing. The Sun have decided to have a go at the EU in German for some reason, except they couldn't be bothered to pay a translator to do it for them (or no one would take on the job) so they've just stuck it through Google Translate instead. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4424560/zwei-manner-stehen-im-weg-einer-brexit-deal-zugunsten-von-millionen-von-menschen-ein-cognac-getrankt-clown-und-ein-aufgeblasenen-dandy (The actual content is completely deluded too - Merkel should intervene in Brussels to get Britain a better deal - but that goes without saying.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5329 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Are you serious... how fucking pathetic is that. Google Translate ffs. Presumably no self respecting German translator would touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22025 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 [extractor] fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15742 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Ventilateurs de football! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15742 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 My bad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22188 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 even the chronicle getting involved http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/broken-brexit-promises-pledges-eu-13613132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11601 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35653 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 He received 17 death threats for posting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The original author that is. AFAIA I'm the only one who's threatened to kill Sonatine for attempting to undermine our democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35653 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: He received 17 death threats for posting that. Touched a nerve tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22188 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 frank the racist land crab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15742 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (and the thread that follows, obviously) Still, as long as we're rid of all those Polski Skleps, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 If only there had've been some way of predicting these issues and our government's incompetence prior to his decision to vote to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35653 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: frank the racist land crab ...lives by the sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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