Isegrim 9778 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: I never knew that ID cards were an option to enter the U.K. They were until yesterday. Ours and other EU ones are as safe as passports but much more practical as they fit in your wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Ah right, I actually have one of those. I just call it a passport card. It grants me freedom of movement across 31 European countries and fits in my wallet. I don’t know what I’d do without it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9778 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hgv-lorry-driver-shortage-germans-b1930558.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Ah right, I actually have one of those. I just call it a passport card. It grants me freedom of movement across 31 European countries and fits in my wallet. I don’t know what I’d do without it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 So the petrol crisis is easing yet Boris is send the army to drive fuel tankers on Monday 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35093 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 How fucking long does it take to mobilise the Army’s tanker drivers like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Alex said: How fucking long does it take to mobilise the Army’s tanker drivers like? They need to fill up 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 How the rest of the world view Brexit Britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35093 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Cracking and nightmarish are synonyms, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just seen this. Could have equally been on the This is the news thread. BBC News - Fuel supplies: Mortar tanker tailed by drivers looking for petrol https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-58767230 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9778 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Norway, Switzerland, where next - Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Mistaken European Union for Eurovision, clearly. Easy mistake to make. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 It takes some balls to stand in front of an audience and, without the slightest hint of irony, declare that the deal you personally negotiated is a danger to the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: It takes some balls to stand in front of an audience and, without the slightest hint of irony, declare that the deal you personally negotiated is a danger to the country. And that the solution for peace in NI is to build a physical border on the island (the only other solution). Let's see how this goes. (Btw, I have seen polls that indicate the NI protocol is quite popular amongst normal people?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 It was the remainers that forced him to agree to it apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Renton said: And that the solution for peace in NI is to build a physical border on the island (the only other solution). Let's see how this goes. (Btw, I have seen polls that indicate the NI protocol is quite popular amongst normal people?). No one has really noticed it. It's just unionist politicians stirring up trouble in advance of the Assembly elections next year. Most normal people see the advantages of it and notice that we're not having the same sort of shortages that you lot are. Saying that the protocol hasn't been fully implemented yet so there could be more to come but more now I don't see how any of the conditions for Art.16 have been met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: It was the remainers that forced him to agree to it apparently. While we're doing nautical metaphors, lets remember Johnson's own (Brexit will be a Titanic success). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Genuine question because I admittedly don't follow this as intently as you lot. Why haven't we had a petrol crisis until now, given we left the EU in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I mean it's not as simple as just being Brexit - Brexit's role in this is that it has completely devastated the flexibility we had in the system to handle crisis moments, and I think honestly that'll generally be how such issues manifest in future. The crisis itself was largely driven by panic buying based on BP announcing they were having some supply issues. Whereas once it would have been a fairly simple job for the market to supply drivers to take up the load to fix this, the reality now is that we've been making it more and more difficult for the very people we need to help us - and ultimately that's why the government was forced into a nationally humiliating u-turn over their visas. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35093 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Crisis solved there then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I don't properly understand this reluctance to allow workers in from other countries. Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control of ours borders, not shutting them completely. There are easily identifiable sectors with acute labour shortages. We aren't going to be able to fill those shortages in the short to medium term so why not offer multi-year visas for those roles? An offer of the ability to work up until Christmas eve is just insulting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35093 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) A lot of it boils down to gross incompetence imo. Edited October 5, 2021 by Alex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Boris admits only 127 drivers have applied for emergency visa's to help him get out of the shit storm. Oh dear looks like Xmas could go "tits up " Boris me old chum Edited October 5, 2021 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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