ewerk 30221 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 The more I think about it the more this internal market bill appears to be a deliberate poison pill in negotiations. Why introduce something so controversial at a critical point in negotiations unless you want to guarantee no deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ewerk said: The more I think about it the more this internal market bill appears to be a deliberate poison pill in negotiations. Why introduce something so controversial at a critical point in negotiations unless you want to guarantee no deal? Agreed, but other than to feed the vulture capitalists, why do we want no deal? Barnier produced a list of other issues today which included, for instance, dissatisfaction with our phyrosanitary proposals. That effectively will mean a complete regulatory block on our agricultural and live stock exports. In fairly sure that will not be a good outcome for us. Oh, and the US deal is also out the window now too It makes no sense to me. Edited September 10, 2020 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30221 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Renton said: Agreed, but other than to feed the vulture capitalists, why do we want no deal? Barnier produced a list of other issues today which included, for instance, dissatisfaction with our phyrosanitary proposals. That effectively will mean a complete regulatory block on our agricultural and live stock exports. In fairly sure that will not be a good outcome for us. Oh, and the US deal is also out the window now too It makes no sense to me. Cummings is a long-termist. I think he’s genuinely convinced that the UK will benefit from being free from all ties in 30 years time. Being a sociopath he has no regard for the livelihoods that will be ruined in the short term, it’s all for the greater good. As a proposal it makes no logical sense but zealots don’t tend to concern themselves with that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I've heard that he wants us to compete with the US and China on tech, through state aid. I dont get that either. Google and Apple didn't need state aid. I'm not convinced the country has a long-term future without a short-term future anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Cummings won't be able to control or predict anything 30 years into the future so if that is his philosophy, he's a fucking idiot. We'll be back inside the EU within 20 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34787 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Cummings won't be able to control or predict anything 30 years into the future so if that is his philosophy, he's a fucking idiot. We'll be back inside the EU within 20 anyway. Unlikely he’ll last beyond Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Watch the Marr interview with Simon Coveney this morning on iPlayer. I have never witnessed such a pathetic display by a British interviewer. Marr was utterly cringeworthy, failed to grasp the most simple issues, and was an obvious stooge for the government. If I was him I'd resign or retire now. Our media is failing us badly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34787 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Renton said: Watch the Marr interview with Simon Coveney this morning on iPlayer. I have never witnessed such a pathetic display by a British interviewer. Marr was utterly cringeworthy, failed to grasp the most simple issues, and was an obvious stooge for the government. If I was him I'd resign or retire now. Our media is failing us badly. He’s been absolute fucking dogshit for ages. Sky and ITV put the BBC shame these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30221 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 His interview with Buckland was a joke. He basically allowed him to justify breaking international law as an insurance policy in the scenario where we don’t get a deal and never once raised the point that the backstop IS the insurance policy that they’re now trying to obliterate. There’s a reason that Marr is the only interview Johnson would do in the run up to the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I think Neil has effectively retired now hasn't he? The only effective political journalist the BBC has left is probably Maitlis. There's zero accountability. This government has gone completely rogue. There destroying our human rights, atacking the judiciary, and leaving the rule based order of international law. They will abolish the national broadcaster or make it a sock puppet mouthpiece, even more than it is now. The union is finished. We'll soon have capital punishment and labour camps imo. History tells us that countries that head in this direction do not fare well. We face oblivion and I fear even my kids won't live to see the great functional democracy we used to be. Am I over reacting? I fucking hope so. But I can't help thinking Years and Years was prothetic. The age of popularism is undoubtedly here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21802 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Renton said: I think Neil has effectively retired now hasn't he? The only effective political journalist the BBC has left is probably Maitlis. There's zero accountability. This government has gone completely rogue. There destroying our human rights, atacking the judiciary, and leaving the rule based order of international law. They will abolish the national broadcaster or make it a sock puppet mouthpiece, even more than it is now. The union is finished. We'll soon have capital punishment and labour camps imo. History tells us that countries that head in this direction do not fare well. We face oblivion and I fear even my kids won't live to see the great functional democracy we used to be. Am I over reacting? I fucking hope so. But I can't help thinking Years and Years was prothetic. The age of popularism is undoubtedly here. Emma Barnett is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21802 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 The charm offensive is going well then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Even if Trump wins and the GOP won both houses, it won't matter. There are plenty of Republicans from the old country that would block any deal. 50 million Irish descendants in the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Christ, i had forgotten they had sent Raab to placate them. What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30221 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I think he promised to explain the GFA to Pelosi despite having previously admitted he hadn’t read it. It’s 35 pages long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30221 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Nice to see him having a bit of luck for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34787 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 And him being rewarded for his sterling work in the political sphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 7 hours a week for a 100k salary. Despite being beyond useless. I really hate these cunts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Renton said: Christ, i had forgotten they had sent Raab to placate them. What could possibly go wrong? So glad we've got Dom on the case. Doesn't know Dover is an important trading port, hasn't read the GFA even though he was Brexit secretary! Attention span of CT. https://t.co/W6F7DfRGCV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21802 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 another details man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21234 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 He's a bona fide moron. Listen to the last bit of this, he claims we can't have a regulatory border down the Irish Sea. That is EXACTLY what we signed up for in the WA, which he and every single tory MP voted for, under order from Johnson. It's got to go somewhere. If it not there then it has to go on the land border which will be a huge breach of the GFA. It was pointed out years ago on here that this was a circle that could never be squared, nothing has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21802 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Cracking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4365 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Soon to be followed by a tier two Essex/Sussex/London permit as the queues grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44273 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 It's about time the South started looking a bit more like a Northern shit hole anyway. Park some fucking lorries in Dorset. I was there last year, fucking green fields everywhere, not a single new build estate in sight but you can't get moved for the fuckers up here. It was like being in Hobbiton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21802 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 if i move to kent, can i apply for a french passport then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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