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2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Fucking Javid, the actual chancellor, standing up in the House and saying that Labour caused "not only a national banking crash but a global banking crash". He sounds like fucking Count Duckula as well. 

 

The little careerist cunt:

 

https://www.sajidjavid.com/news/sajid-javid-only-thing-leaving-eu-guarantees-lost-decade-british-business

 

 

There may be a good reason for the cunt to be making these comments :cuppa:

 

 

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God I hope this comes back to bite him. Cummings has just put 95% pure Brexit on the table as part of an all or nothing gamble to get 100% pure Brexit.

 

It's completely irrational from his perspective. Even from Johnson's unless he thinks Corbyn will vote it down.

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Wait wait wait.

 

His deal is still there. It almost looks like he's saying he'll grant the timetable extension for the deal to be read if there is an agreement about having a general election afterwards. So he'll continue with the deal, potentially achieve Brexit, and then crash into a general election having terrified the Labour rebels into voting for it.

 

This is actually, depressingly, a smart move. He gets everything he's ever wanted, unless Labour can absolutely trash the deal in the meantime.

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3 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Wait wait wait.

 

His deal is still there. It almost looks like he's saying he'll grant the timetable extension for the deal to be read if there is an agreement about having a general election afterwards. So he'll continue with the deal, potentially achieve Brexit, and then crash into a general election having terrified the Labour rebels into voting for it.

 

This is actually, depressingly, a smart move. He gets everything he's ever wanted, unless Labour can absolutely trash the deal in the meantime.

 

There's no way his deal is getting passed before the election. All the opposition parties need to do is spend the week picking it apart and spelling out what a fucking shitshow it is. There's still not enough time to pass the deal before the election, this is just a Cabinet that couldn't come to agreement trying to get the best of both worlds. 

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1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

 

There's no way his deal is getting passed before the election. All the opposition parties need to do is spend the week picking it apart and spelling out what a fucking shitshow it is. There's still not enough time to pass the deal before the election, this is just a Cabinet that couldn't come to agreement trying to get the best of both worlds. 

 

Everything that stops that deal going through is going to be held up as a reason to vote for Johnson. As far as plays go, it's a good one.

 

We need Labour and the Remain camp to be shit hot on this now. Terrifyingly. But either way, they should go for it. Meet him head on, for death and glory :D

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As long as we’re still in the EU then the Tories lose votes to the Brexit party. It’s a fact that isn’t up for debate. The only way they minimise it is by pledging no deal which they can’t do now that he has his great new deal.

An election now is not good for Johnson.

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15 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

Everything that stops that deal going through is going to be held up as a reason to vote for Johnson. As far as plays go, it's a good one.

 

We need Labour and the Remain camp to be shit hot on this now. Terrifyingly. But either way, they should go for it. Meet him head on, for death and glory :D

 

Corbyn and shit hot do not belong in the same sentence :lol:  

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, ewerk said:

As long as we’re still in the EU then the Tories lose votes to the Brexit party. It’s a fact that isn’t up for debate. The only way they minimise it is by pledging no deal which they can’t do now that he has his great new deal.

An election now is not good for Johnson.

 

And yet he's backing it.

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Iirc Gina Miller said she would release a tactical voting app, to maximise the damage to the tories. It wouldn't need an opposition pact, although this might happen in some seats (Johnson is very vulnerable). Could this make a difference? It's not a strategy I think makes sense for the tories,given their only competitor is the BP on a no deal ticket. 

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I find it fairly believable. For Remainers, this is about freedoms. For Brexiteers, it's about being right. Both deeply held views, with the latter being emotionally immature in the extreme ofc, but still.

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Question time from South Shields. :lol:

The usual gammons of course but Jesus Christ, these are full blown gammontards. Never have I seen such a bunch of weird looking inarticulate freaks slathering meaningless sound bites. An absolute embarassment to the North East.

 

:CT:

 

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