Rayvin 5219 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 This is the last game in town for the ERG, they have to go for it. Â They're the least of our worries, it's the other factions we need to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 6 hours ago, ewerk said: At this point I think it'll be more about scaring the ERG into backing his 'deal' or facing losing Brexit altogether. Remember where you heard it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: Remember where you heard it first. CT? What is this, if not the cracking deal he foresaw? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Someone has just made the point on twitter that Baker and the ERG getting the deal spun by Johnson and Cummings is a million miles away from having it written down and explained in detail by someone that understands it. I can still see the ERG swerving this one once it all gets written down and they see how much he's given away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 DUP again ruling out NI being part on EU customs union. Could Johnson get this deal then demand to go to the electorate with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, ewerk said: DUP again ruling out NI being part on EU customs union. Could Johnson get this deal then demand to go to the electorate with it?  What do you mean? GE, UK referendum NI only referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 GE in the hope he won’t need the DUP’s backing after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, ewerk said: GE in the hope he won’t need the DUP’s backing after it.  How could he credibly claim a GE is a more reasonable way of doing that than a referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: Â How could he credibly claim a GE is a more reasonable way of doing that than a referendum? Possibly by arguing that is how it should have been done in the first place, in Parliament by those elected to govern, not the stupid public, but hey, I am not saying that is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 ERG splits are forming. Owen Paterson is calling the deal "absurd and unacceptable" and IDS apparently "hit the roof" when he heard the plans.  I suspect we're all about to be bailed out by the swivel-eyed ERG lot again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Not to mention that poison dwarf Francois. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Are Patterson and IDS going to lose the whip? I suspect the cowardly shits will kowtow. Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: ERG splits are forming. Owen Paterson is calling the deal "absurd and unacceptable" and IDS apparently "hit the roof" when he heard the plans.  I suspect we're all about to be bailed out by the swivel-eyed ERG lot again. Headbangers to the rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15524 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/brexit-is-less-people-s-revolution-and-more-mid-life-crisis-1.4049122 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33173 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Renton said: Are Patterson and IDS going to lose the whip? I suspect the cowardly shits will kowtow. Â Â Â I see this lad from time to time on my Twitter feed although I obviously don't follow him. Apparently he comes from Gateshead and if there's someone who looks more like Harry Enfield's Tory Boy then I've yet to see them. How the fuck do you come from Tyne & Wear and be that way inclined? Â Â Â 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Given his probable upbringing, it's likely that he was referred to within his family and friends as "Master Payne"  Alias Betty (obscure Kung Pow reference). Edited October 16, 2019 by Rayvin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019   The climbdown has begun.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Why spend the past month refusing to admit that? Why spend £100m on these Get Ready for Brexit adverts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I'm wondering if we might see Cummings resign soon. If we do then i think we can conclude that the wheels have come off and Johnson is in self preservation mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: Why spend the past month refusing to admit that? Why spend £100m on these Get Ready for Brexit adverts? It's ridiculous how much public money has been pissed up the wall on tory propaganda. Tax payers money, the cunts. Also the queens speech was merely a propaganda tool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: I'm wondering if we might see Cummings resign soon. If we do then i think we can conclude that the wheels have come off and Johnson is in self preservation mode.  I'm sure everyone will pretend it's all part of his cunning plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I'm wondering if we might see Cummings resign soon. If we do then i think we can conclude that the wheels have come off and Johnson is in self preservation mode. I doubt it. I think his role has exposed how useless he is at governing but I think they'll still have faith in his ability to run a campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Renton said: It's ridiculous how much public money has been pissed up the wall on tory propaganda. Tax payers money, the cunts. Also the queens speech was merely a propaganda tool. Don't forget the millions spent on no deal ferry services. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: Don't forget the millions spent on no deal ferry services. And billions bribing you lot. Â 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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