NJS 4378 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I remember the day after the vote when people at work were asking me how the North could.vote leave when it was obvious it would fuck the economy - I replied that you can't frighten people who are generally fucked with more hardship. Polls since suggest a shit load of leave voters didn't and don't care about economic effects as long as the infamous control is regained. Sunderland /Nissan is going to be the ultimate comeuppance of that view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17249 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 All electric Nissan Leaf plant opened in 2017. The future of the car industry purpose built for them on their doorsteps I don't think anything would've stopped them from voting leave mind. I hate generalising about groups of people from anywhere but of you worked at nissan and voted leave you're likely to give pigshit a bad name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Think I posted it at the time but there was a guardian vid of some mackems saying they wanted "proper jobs" like mining and shipbuilding rather than the shit at Nissan - absolutely blind to the world. It was a shame that Thatcher put real effort into getting Nissan there but left the rest of industrial areas to rot - I mean that in the sense there should have been multiple "Nissans". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, NJS said: Think I posted it at the time but there was a guardian vid of some mackems saying they wanted "proper jobs" like mining and shipbuilding rather than the shit at Nissan - absolutely blind to the world. It was a shame that Thatcher put real effort into getting Nissan there but left the rest of industrial areas to rot - I mean that in the sense there should have been multiple "Nissans". In what sense is working at Nissan not a proper job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: In what sense is working at Nissan not a proper job? I'd guess that simple assembly line work isn;t as skilled as being a welder in a shipyard or a leccy down the pit but fuck knows what they meant really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I'd add that my mate who was going to be a deputy at Westoe before the strike started moved to Nissan Yamoto post redundancy and is now an engineering supervisor which suggests of course there are "proper jobs" for those who want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Life was better when you had to get up at the crack of dawn for a 12 hour shift down pit for tuppence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, ewerk said: Life was better when you had to get up at the crack of dawn for a 12 hour shift down pit for tuppence. Luxury! Etc.. . Johnson and Varadkar close to a deal apparently. Arlene will no doubt self combust. Interesting to see how they will try and square the circle, again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Aye, this all means nothing. Johnson has bumbled, Varadkar has been polite, and they've agreed to keep doing this for another week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33173 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, ewerk said: Life was better when you had to get up at the crack of dawn for a 12 hour shift down pit for tuppence. I've never worked down a pit but I have been into Nissan and know a couple of lads who've worked there and I can only say I had a close shave I didn't end up there myself. Fuck. That. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17249 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Varadker chipper and confident of a agreement before the end of the month.....he doesn't have to win a vote in Westminster on it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Aye, as has been the case all the way through this nightmare, the numbers for whatever Johnson thinks he's agreed won't add up. I wouldn't be surprised if he's currently getting a bollocking for making concessions that he shouldn't have made, and by this time tomorrow we'll find that whatever progress Varadkar thinks was made will have been reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 So say he astounds everyone and gets a deal through Parliament. Where does that leave GB? You’ll be outside the CU and SM with most likely an agreement providing zero tariffs on certain goods but not all. It’s basically a slightly less shit version of no deal but with more time to prepare. It’s still going to be absolute shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Aye, as has been the case all the way through this nightmare, the numbers for whatever Johnson thinks he's agreed won't add up. I wouldn't be surprised if he's currently getting a bollocking for making concessions that he shouldn't have made, and by this time tomorrow we'll find that whatever progress Varadkar thinks was made will have been reversed. He just says what he thinks will please whomever he is talking to at that moment in time. Popularism. Doomed to failure in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: So say he astounds everyone and gets a deal through Parliament. Where does that leave GB? You’ll be outside the CU and SM with most likely an agreement providing zero tariffs on certain goods but not all. It’s basically a slightly less shit version of no deal but with more time to prepare. It’s still going to be absolute shit. An FTA is almost as bad as no deal. All the models showed this. We need to be in the EEA not to take a huge economic hit. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 But, if he pulls off any deal that delays the pain he will spin it and win a GE. That's all he cares about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Apparently the new border controls by Johnson will be called the British-Irish Area for Cooperation, Knowledge & Special Trade Operation Procedures. Looks promising. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Is there a joke acronym in there that I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, Gemmill said: Is there a joke acronym in there that I'm missing? Backstop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Fuck me. Been a long day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, Alex said: Backstop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Fuck me. Been a long day. If you’d said you were taking the piss I’d have believed you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 hours ago, ewerk said: Life was better when you had to get up at the crack of dawn for a 12 hour shift down pit for tuppence. And didn't have to work for Johnny Foreigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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