ewerk 30266 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 No but he clearly broke the rules. Campbell 4PM 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, NJS said: Did he drive to Bradford, vote for him and then brag about it on TV? Brag about it? Did you see his interview? He admitted it after direct questioning and didn't show anything but regret it had came to that. Much like many of us on here I suspect. I know you have a bitter hatred of New Labour but some honesty and less hypocrisy would be welcome. Corbyn has been contrary his entire time as a backbencher, sniping the leadership from a distance. To expel Campbell for doing what 50% of labour voters, members and probably backbench MPs did is deplorable and counter productive. Labour members and voters have had enough of the stupid old goat. Edited May 28, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tommy-robinson-eu-election-defeat-social-media-government-085614766.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4371 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I don't hate new Labour - I just think they failed to right enough wrongs. If you join an organisation you follow the rules - I don't think a lying warmonger should be an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, NJS said: I don't hate new Labour - I just think they failed to right enough wrongs. If you join an organisation you follow the rules - I don't think a lying warmonger should be an exception. Give over. Corbyn broke the whip 428 times as a backbencher ffs. If voting Libdem last Thursday means exclusion from the party, half the membership should resign. Edited May 28, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, NJS said: I don't hate new Labour - I just think they failed to right enough wrongs. If you join an organisation you follow the rules - I don't think a lying warmonger should be an exception. So you agree that Corbyn should be expelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 So Bercow has confirmed that MPs will be able to block no deal Brexit. That means any PM that forces it through by deliberate inaction would be in serious shit imo. Probably what Jeremy Hunt and Hammond have been alluding to. How on Earth are the Conservatives getting out of this self created mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, ewerk said: So you agree that Corbyn should be expelled? No he doesn't. Corbyn should be an exception to the no exceptions rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Why is the BBC televising the tory hustings? It's not like we can vote. Might be amusing watching them try to out cunt each other I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4371 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I understood the rule was voting for another party - if I'm wrong and it's just expressing support for another party then fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 From the rule book, ' supports any candidate who stands against an official Labour candidate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 You might expect the bar should be set a bit higher for a longstanding MP as well rather than a member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Hilarious that Alistair Campbell has been expelled from Labour 24 hrs after revealing that he voted Lib Dem (like many other Labour voters). If only the party reacted as swiftly to Labour members who are openly anti-Semitic ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob032 38 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 11 hours ago, NJS said: I understood the rule was voting for another party - if I'm wrong and it's just expressing support for another party then fair enough Your vote is private at the the of the day. For all we and they know Corbyn could have voted Green - that's a rule they could never police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11130 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 17:03, Renton said: And btw, has anyone clocked that one of the Brexit Party's candidates for the NE lives in the south of France? The hypocrisy of these people is staggering. Surely the hypocrisy is standing for election to a Parliament of which you don't want your Country to be a part - but that is Farage to a "t". He has made a significant living out of it for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11130 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 20:54, Rayvin said: September. When it's literally too late to do anything about it. Precisely what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44387 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Ross Atkin (@rossatkin) Tweeted: There were some not very useful infographics of the EU election data going around yesterday and some dodgy takes based on them. I’ve tried to visualise the results here in a way that you can meaningfully compare them with voting in the 2016 referendum. 👇 #infographic #brexit https://t.co/Z7YaTVWeh9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Nice to see a bit of honesty from James Cleverly with him admitting that they have to push through with Brexit because not to do so would damage his party’s reputation. Fuck the rest of us. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48439908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Ross Atkin (@rossatkin) Tweeted: There were some not very useful infographics of the EU election data going around yesterday and some dodgy takes based on them. I’ve tried to visualise the results here in a way that you can meaningfully compare them with voting in the 2016 referendum. 👇 #infographic #brexit https://t.co/Z7YaTVWeh9 That's a great infographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I'm not sure about it to be honest, I think it's an oversimplification. I would be very surprised if around 4m people actually want to leave with a deal, given that no particular flavour of deal is being seriously talked about anymore. I think that's 4m tribal voters. The point about the other 16m or so who didn't vote scans though, and I think should really come out in favour of Remain in the end. No Deal Brexit is an extreme position, and it's hard to imagine anyone who really wants it, not having come out to vote for it in these elections. As such, I think that with Remain being 'non-extreme' (however much the No Dealers try to characterise it as such, this should be easily dismissed), it will naturally pick up the majority of the electorate that aren't really arsed either way. I think c.6m might be the full extent of the people really committed to No Deal. I daresay they'll pick up some stragglers as the interest intensifies, but if we have a straight choice between No Deal and Remain, they're fucked. I'd be surprised if they hit 40%, despite what the polls say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 It's a fucking nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21300 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I'm not sure about it to be honest, I think it's an oversimplification. I would be very surprised if around 4m people actually want to leave with a deal, given that no particular flavour of deal is being seriously talked about anymore. I think that's 4m tribal voters. The point about the other 16m or so who didn't vote scans though, and I think should really come out in favour of Remain in the end. No Deal Brexit is an extreme position, and it's hard to imagine anyone who really wants it, not having come out to vote for it in these elections. As such, I think that with Remain being 'non-extreme' (however much the No Dealers try to characterise it as such, this should be easily dismissed), it will naturally pick up the majority of the electorate that aren't really arsed either way. I think c.6m might be the full extent of the people really committed to No Deal. I daresay they'll pick up some stragglers as the interest intensifies, but if we have a straight choice between No Deal and Remain, they're fucked. I'd be surprised if they hit 40%, despite what the polls say. It's a necessary simplification. But counters the inevitable narrative that these votes mean we have to just get on with Brexit which the tories and Corbyn are spinning. I was actually very relieved by the EU election results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44387 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Boris Johnson has been issued with a court summons to explain his lies during the referendum campaign. A great look for the bookie's favourite for next PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44387 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 This has the added bonus of his full title, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson being bandied about a decent amount in court documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44387 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Plenty patter from commentators saying this boosts his chances. I fail to see how tbh. Unless the assumption is simply that if you're a Tory, you're a cunt that'll lap this up as one big guffaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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