ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I suggest a referendum on who wants to repeatedly punch Sebastian Payne in the face. That would bring the country together. I’ve nothing against him personally but he looks like a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Ten amendments on the bill? This could take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Clearly not all of the amendments need divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9733 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, ewerk said: Ten amendments on the bill? This could take a while. It’s some strange parliamentary proceedings you’ve got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I’m pretty sure they make most of it up as they go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I stand corrected. It seems they may have rejected an amendment to it. Even the Guardian doesn't know what's going on anymore. So confusing. Quote I just made an error: the vote hasn’t failed, an amendment by the former minister George Eustice was just defeated by 304 ayes to 313 noes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9733 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Renton said: So confusing. I thought same when switching over from the news at ten saying a result was about to come. But as the amendment had the wrong number it couldn’t be Cooper’s. meanwhile Everything starts to remind me of “Life ofBrian” What has the EU ever done for us? People, we should struggle together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Hammond just ruled out no deal on peston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9733 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Cooper’s amendment made it to the 3rd reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Holy fuck. Majority of 1. Die, No Deal, Die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 What happens next? Rubber stamped by the Lords? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Then the queen I think I read My thinking is that this would mean the Tories, if faced with Revoke or No Deal, have to revoke...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9733 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Renton said: What happens next? Rubber stamped by the Lords? https://inews.co.uk/news/cooper-letwin-bill-no-deal-brexit-law-parliament-mps-explained/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I just want to say that the Daily Mail comment section makes for glorious reading on this. Full of the usual "traitors", "will of the people", blah blah but also those certain individuals who believe that within a few years, the EU will send troops into the UK to kill them. Some who think that we will have a second referendum and that if remain wins it will have been rigged. "The people will erupt if this goes through". "We're now worse than Iran, Russia and North Korea(!)" I don't know if we'll get any kind of Brexit that will satisfy me - probably we won't. But I'm going to enjoy the apoplexy over this for all the schadenfraude I can get from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) Vote Leave encouraging de-selection of Remain Tories. Speaking of, we should probably get on that for Pro-Brexit Labour MPs. Edited April 4, 2019 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44388 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Andrea Jenkyns on Newsnight talking, completely unchallenged, about managed no deal and having a transition period so there's no crash out. These people are either criminally irresponsible or stupid beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Rayvin said: I just want to say that the Daily Mail comment section makes for glorious reading on this. Full of the usual "traitors", "will of the people", blah blah but also those certain individuals who believe that within a few years, the EU will send troops into the UK to kill them. Some who think that we will have a second referendum and that if remain wins it will have been rigged. "The people will erupt if this goes through". "We're now worse than Iran, Russia and North Korea(!)" I don't know if we'll get any kind of Brexit that will satisfy me - probably we won't. But I'm going to enjoy the apoplexy over this for all the schadenfraude I can get from it. There was something I read a while back which I also think I mentioned on here about a lot of the comments on there coming from mail employees rather than members of the public. Wouldn’t surprise me at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Rayvin said: Holy fuck. Majority of 1. Die, No Deal, Die. Emily Thornberry couldn’t make the vote last night because her kid was in hospital. I’d be interested to know whether she was successfully paired by the government whips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44388 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Check out @EmporersNewC’s Tweet: I don't usually like people engaging with Morgan, but this is a thorough dismantling. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: Check out @EmporersNewC’s Tweet: I don't usually like people engaging with Morgan, but this is a thorough dismantling. Cheers, an excellent bestiary of unicorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) The thing is about Morgan, he doesn’t even believe the shit he spouts most of the time (and this is almost certainly true in this instance). He’s just the worst kind of irresponsible populist, saying what he thinks people want to hear knowing he’ll be fine come what may. Edited April 4, 2019 by Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) Another thing I’ve seen argued lately is that because Cameron warned about the prospect of no deal before the referendum, no deal is what people voted for. I mean, seriously? So, the same people who claim everything else Cameron’s government said about the referendum was ‘Project Fear’ claim that they didn’t believe all the promises Leave made about great deals being made to the UK’s advantage but instead believed that statement made by Cameron (who wanted us to stay in). That’s what you’re attempting to engage with in these sorts of debates. These people have convinced themselves that things which are demonstrably lies are the absolute truth. As I’ve said before it’s a shame you couldn’t have two countries where you had the no deal zealots in one and everyone else in the other. I wonder how many of them would actually go for it. Probably about as many people as went on Farage’s march. And, just like that, Farage wouldn’t be one of them Edited April 4, 2019 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11307 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Theresa May as Sid James is a bit harsh on him tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 There was a yougov poll doing the rounds yesterday that said every constituency in England bar the London ones wanted No Deal over Remain. I'm less and less sure about this referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: There was a yougov poll doing the rounds yesterday that said every constituency in England bar the London ones wanted No Deal over Remain. I'm less and less sure about this referendum. A PV is potentially terrifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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