ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Tbf, this is completely true. But with her position being what it was, I don't think it would have made sense for Labour to enter into an early cross party solution with her. Before the snap election her position looked quite secure. As I said at the time, she could have framed her invitation to him in terms of national unity and shamed him into accepting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Before the snap election her position looked quite secure. As I said at the time, she could have framed her invitation to him in terms of national unity and shamed him into accepting it. Does shame work on Corbyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) I guess it's possible that May is doing this to ratchet up pressure on the ERG and DUP though. Threaten them with a Soft Brexit and see if they return. Edited April 3, 2019 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Does shame work on Corbyn? Why do you think he’s now meeting with her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: Why do you think he’s now meeting with her? Because she's fucked and he can see that? Because it doesn't do him any harm and has a lot of potential upsides for Labour? It's certainly not because she shamed him. I mean he walked out of the last meeting and has refused to meet her previously I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4371 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, ewerk said: Before the snap election her position looked quite secure. As I said at the time, she could have framed her invitation to him in terms of national unity and shamed him into accepting it. Tbf they did have withdrawing from the CU and SM in their GE manifesto so I don't think she was ever leaning towards a soft-ish position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Because she's fucked and he can see that? Because it doesn't do him any harm and has a lot of potential upsides for Labour? It's certainly not because she shamed him. I mean he walked out of the last meeting and has refused to meet her previously I believe. He refused to meet her previously and took a lot of flak for it. His walk out the other week was to do with the presence of Umuna. He met with her one on one hours later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, NJS said: Tbf they did have withdrawing from the CU and SM in their GE manifesto so I don't think she was ever leaning towards a soft-ish position. Yeah, that was based on her getting a thumping majority. It was a gross miscalculation. It's only recently dawned on her that she perhaps needs to chase what she can get through rather than what she wants to get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44389 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Check out @bbc5live’s Tweet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 there isn't a perfect exit because you can't fix stupid https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/02/opinion/brexit-news.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Check out @bbc5live’s Tweet: Fucking hell, he's let the cat out the bag there. What a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44389 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Aye. Looking like a stitch up. Fortunately he'll have Starmer in the room to sniff it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: there isn't a perfect exit because you can't fix stupid https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/02/opinion/brexit-news.html Quote What we’re seeing is a country that’s determined to commit economic suicide but can’t even agree on how to kill itself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44389 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I'm expecting May to get a rough ride off her own party at today's PMQs. Fuck knows what her and Corbyn are gonna do, they're meeting straight after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Aye. Looking like a stitch up. Fortunately he'll have Starmer in the room to sniff it out. Corbyn should feign flu. Watson and Starmer to arrive with a sick note and take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 It’s a good job you can trust the Tories with economy, on the other hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 May has just accused Corbyn as siding with Putin over Salisbury in PMQ. I hope when they meet later he hoofs her in the fanny by way of introduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Well he didn’t disbelieve Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3809 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, ewerk said: @Kevin Carr's Gloves pretty much called me insane two years ago when I suggested that Labour and the Tories should work together on a deal that could please both parties. It could have saved a lot of time and hassle if the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom had listened to me then. I still think it’s insane for Labour but that’s where we’re at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21301 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 He's taking Rebecca Long-Bailey with him to see May (as well as Starmer and Brown). Pretty sure she's anti-PV so not looking good on that front. She's not impressive in debates either tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 She's a right cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44389 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Aye she's a flid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) I think the signs are starting to look like we might get out of this with a PV or election... Merkel has just indirectly signalled that the EU shouldn't give us a short extension. May has just made clear that EU elections are on the table if the EU insist on a long extension. Government supposedly ready to back Cooper's bill in some form. EDIT - Apparently not on the last point, although still, I think we're looking at a long extension. Edited April 3, 2019 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 In that case the Customs Union appears to be the only thing Corbyn and May disagree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 If that remains the case, then Corbyn is destroying Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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