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4 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

I dunno man, I watched the debate in HOC yesterday and each option was presented to MPs, with questions from the room to clarify certain points. Ken Clarke presented this one and he was pretty thorough.

 

I think they know what they're voting for at this point, but a customs union does appear to have the potential to be politically worse than May's deal, even if aligning our standards to the EU would mean we can at least... avoid US chicken? Or am I wrong about that?

 

Well, it would still mean we had regulatory checks on our borders to stop chlorinated chicken getting to the EU. The CU is solely about tariffs, not standards. Standards have to be enforced by the ECJ, hence why the SM is such a red line (as well as FOM). Worth pointing out, Turkey has an opt out on agriculture. I'd expect we would too so yeah, look forward to chlorinated chicken and an effective embargo on UK agric exports to the EU. This is literally worse than no deal imo. 

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1 hour ago, Rayvin said:

 

Not exactly catchy is it?

 

Also, will they even have enough people to put candidates in all constituencies?

 

I can say now, unequivocally, that my final democratic vote will go to whoever intends to deliver the least hard Brexit, weighted against their strategic chance of success.

It’s only one vote in a safe Labour Seat, mate ;)

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1 hour ago, Renton said:

 

I'm going to make an opinion and a prediction. Most MPs don't understand what the CU is, they can't get their heads around the difference between the CU and the SM. When they finally realise that this option kills FOM, doesn't include any social chapter, doesn't solve trade friction substantively, and doesn't solve NI, we'll be back to square one. It's basically a shit FTA where we lose any control over our other trading relationships.

 

This underlines a more important fact, that our MPs are grossly uninformed and incompetent. I know that's obvious, but honestly, I don't think they are capable of getting us out this mess. Ever. 

I think it’s obviously a complicated issue but the useless fuckwits have had almost 3 years to read up on it. 

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4 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Every possible outcome voted against ffs :lol: people like to say “oh, this shouldn’t have been left in the hands of the public” Well, it definitely can’t be left in the hands of these complete fucking chancers.

It’s like they know what they don’t want but they’re completely incapable of coming up with a viable alternative. Who does that remind you of? 

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On 26/03/2019 at 23:14, Christmas Tree said:

All seems a bit pointless now as all of these options still mean signing up to Theresa Mays withdrawal agreement. 

 

All they are now voting on is the political declaration which is which is non binding anyway and allowed for any of these options to be negotiated in phase 2.

 

 

 

Seems as though MV3 will be the withdrawal agreement only.

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34 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

 

Lasses when they’re trying to pick holidays?

Or everyone on everyone single works night out 

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1 hour ago, Alex said:

It’s only one vote in a safe Labour Seat, mate ;)

 

Well you never know if some serious momentum gets behind Remain. Anyway, tbf to Nick Brown he voted for everything he should have last night apart from abstaining on revoking A50.

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2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

pretty girls and pints ffs. it's like one of the Knight Ryder's diary entires.

Not that I’m reading it but I would guess it’s a complete fabrication too

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1 hour ago, Monkeys Fist said:

Mary Glindon?

 

 

That's the one. My previous MP, McKinell voted for the referendum despite being in a leave constituency. Onwurah voted for revocation and referendum. Let down by Nana Glindon. 

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Think Alan Campbell  oted for the referendum but abstained from revocation. 

 

So, what are doing on Brexit day tomorrow now we have our cracking deal and its BAU, but even better than it was. Its been a titanic success. 

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10 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

That's the one. My previous MP, McKinell voted for the referendum despite being in a leave constituency. Onwurah voted for revocation and referendum. Let down by Nana Glindon. 

 

Had a quick look what mine did with the votes.

 

In short, protected herself.

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