NJS 4386 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Leadsom "jokingly" said come back when it gets 17m - now that would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11281 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I remain (sorry wrong word) confused about this extension. Given that May needs to have her deal approved by Parliament next week to even have a short delay, and given that Bercow has said she can't bring it back, what does what was agreed last night change? Does this mean a no deal Brexit next Friday? Can anyone explain? Or do I need to wait for John Oliver - crap, he is having a week off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 29th March is gone. I assume that the fact that the EU have agreed to move our departure date is a significant enough change to allow May a MV3, though I’m not 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44900 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 She'll get her vote. I read this as the EU, utterly frustrated with May's performance yesterday, trying to give Parliament a bit more time to exert some influence on the process. Which is just a further indictment of her pathetic leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44900 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Check out @faisalislam’s Tweet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13873 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 She's a complete embarrassment. Absolutely none of this can be worth it, just so you can say you're Prime Minister. I'd honestly reopen the tower and chuck her in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44900 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 If I recall correctly, our own CT was fond of the "they need us more than we need them" argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: She's a complete embarrassment. Absolutely none of this can be worth it, just so you can say you're Prime Minister. I'd honestly reopen the tower and chuck her in it. Charge her the £27.50 entrance on her way in, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: She's a complete embarrassment. Absolutely none of this can be worth it, just so you can say you're Prime Minister. I'd honestly reopen the tower and chuck her in it. With Gregor Clegane for company. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The EU have done us a big favour there tbh. That's actually really mature and sensible of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: The EU have done us a big favour there tbh. That's actually really mature and sensible of them. And themselves, makes perfect sense what they have done. Gives a bit of breathing space, more time for no deal preparations and to take our industry, gives more certainty about our leaving date, protects the EU elections, and ultimately leaves all the pressure on the UK. The EU can lie back and blow smoke rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Ok sure but they've also given Parliament time to kill off May and take control of the process. Horrifyingly we now need Corbyn to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I've all but given up on a good outcome now, I just can't see what will heal the rifts. There is no solution to the stupidity personified by the likes of CT. Honestly swinging round to the idea we have to experience no deal to get this monkey off our backs. My kids are young, I'm hoping that in a decades time our politics can be reformed, because without that there is no future for the UK in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I think if there wasn't a real appetite to avoid No Deal, we wouldn't have gotten an extension - the EU have provided a 10 day extension because they still hope that Parliament might be able to unfuck this. I actually think, based on how things have developed, that May might just give in and get the long extension if MV3 fails. She didn't rule it out yesterday. And really, she's the only barrier to getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Ok sure but they've also given Parliament time to kill off May and take control of the process. Horrifyingly we now need Corbyn to step up. Yeah that’s not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44900 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Aye. I think we now pivot to a softer Brexit because that is ultimately the will of Parliament. Although I wouldn't rule out Dracula's Mam whipping what should be a free indicative vote process under pressure from the head cases in her party. Revoking A50 is a pipe dream unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) What good will a long extension do? It's just more can kicking, in 21 months we will be in the exact same position again. Well, not exactly , because disinvestment in the UK will continue and our international standing will worsen. Parliament will remain paralysed and the two main parties will still only be bothered about self interests. A slow death is worse than a fast one if you believe in life after death. Edited March 22, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Aye. I think we now pivot to a softer Brexit because that is ultimately the will of Parliament. Although I wouldn't rule out Dracula's Mam whipping what should be a free indicative vote process under pressure from the head cases in her party. Revoking A50 is a pipe dream unfortunately. She fell out with her chief whip yesterday, she might find that difficult now too. Really, she's all over the place. I don't think for a second we'll revoke A50 unless Parliament actually does think No Deal will be apocalyptic. But campaigning for it on the strongest possible terms strengthens anyone calling for a softer Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Renton said: What good will a long extension do? It's just more can kicking, in 21 months we will be in the exact same position again. We'll, not exact, because disinvestment in the UK will continue and our international standing will worsen. Parliament will remain paralysed and the two main parties will still only be bothered about self interests. A slow death is worse than a fast one if you believe in life after death. May is the only reason we've done this can kicking bullshit though. If she's gone, as she has made clear she will be in the event of a long extension, then Parliament will actually have to come together and work this out properly. They'll do indicative votes, settle on soft Brexit, and that'll be what goes through. I'm not even sure we'll get a second referendum - but honestly I don't care that much as long as FOM remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 anyone going on the march tomorrow? it'll be my first since 2003. that achieved fuck all too but still feel it's a democratic duty, if ultimately a pointless exercise. the thing that really pisses me off about these things is all these career protesters, (the stop the war/anti-israel/whatever your particular cause might be) who hijack the demonstration to push their own narrative. it puts off moderates from taking it seriously. i'll just have to hold my nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rayvin said: May is the only reason we've done this can kicking bullshit though. If she's gone, as she has made clear she will be in the event of a long extension, then Parliament will actually have to come together and work this out properly. They'll do indicative votes, settle on soft Brexit, and that'll be what goes through. I'm not even sure we'll get a second referendum - but honestly I don't care that much as long as FOM remains. How will that work? The WA is closed. We can aspire for a softer Brexit via the political declaration, but it's not legally binding and ultimately driven by nefarious tory cunts. Do you trust them? Okay, maybe the EU will rip it up and we can start again with a very long extension? But is there now any appetite for this? Does it cure the underlying issues that our politics and democracy is broken? Meanwhile nothing else gets done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, Dr Gloom said: anyone going on the march tomorrow? it'll be my first since 2003. that achieved fuck all too but still feel it's a democratic duty, if ultimately a pointless exercise. the thing that really pisses me off about these things is all these career protesters, (the stop the war/anti-israel/whatever your particular cause might be) who hijack the demonstration to push their own narrative. it puts off moderates from taking it seriously. i'll just have to hold my nose. Good man. I'm not I'm afraid, it's just too expensive a proposition for me at the moment. And aye, just ignore the pro-activitists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Renton said: How will that work? The WA is closed. We can aspire for a softer Brexit via the political declaration, but it's not legally binding and ultimately driven by nefarious tory cunts. Do you trust them? Okay, maybe the EU will rip it up and we can start again with a very long extension? But is there now any appetite for this? Does it cure the underlying issues that our politics and democracy is broken? Meanwhile nothing else gets done. I think they will rip it up since it isn't getting through Parliament. I don't know what the point in them agreeing to an extension only to continue to insist on May's deal would be. Nothing will cure the underlying issues that our politics and democracy is broken - nothing until everyone loses interest and moves on to the next hysteria. Possibly Corbyn might be useful for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: anyone going on the march tomorrow? it'll be my first since 2003. that achieved fuck all too but still feel it's a democratic duty, if ultimately a pointless exercise. the thing that really pisses me off about these things is all these career protesters, (the stop the war/anti-israel/whatever your particular cause might be) who hijack the demonstration to push their own narrative. it puts off moderates from taking it seriously. i'll just have to hold my nose. Good luck. As it happens I haven't been down to that there London for years now, all my business outside Newcastle is in Manchester and too much hassle to take the kids. Next year maybe. Hope it goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44900 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: anyone going on the march tomorrow? it'll be my first since 2003. that achieved fuck all too but still feel it's a democratic duty, if ultimately a pointless exercise. the thing that really pisses me off about these things is all these career protesters, (the stop the war/anti-israel/whatever your particular cause might be) who hijack the demonstration to push their own narrative. it puts off moderates from taking it seriously. i'll just have to hold my nose. I'll be watching the news for you sailing past the camera on a hover board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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