Christmas Tree 4689 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Renton said: Who replaces May in the short term if she resigns? Do we get Liddington until one of the tory loons is appointed? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15406 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Backlash, sure, but the gammons already think they're being stitched up and they've managed what, 60 people for their march? What does anyone seriously think they are going to do? They could all vote UKIP en masse next time out but honestly it'd just kill off the Tories for the most part so I'm having a hard time worrying about it. I reckon you'd see more attempts on MPs' lives. Even May's rhetoric yesterday played into that. Which isn't to say that should stop us from doing the right thing, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Meenzer said: I reckon you'd see more attempts on MPs' lives. Even May's rhetoric yesterday played into that. Which isn't to say that should stop us from doing the right thing, obviously. There's a joke there somewhere but I'm too scared to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15406 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Yes, I could perhaps have phrased that better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 Seems to be a feeling amongst journalist that May is increasingly resigned to no deal (if MV3 falls) and that 2/3 of cabinet agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 And would the other third resign in order to collapse her government? Surely that would be enough to force her to give power to the Commons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, ewerk said: And would the other third resign in order to collapse her government? Surely that would be enough to force her to give power to the Commons. She could just replace them and carry on as Corbyn did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5183 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: She could just replace them and carry on as Corbyn did. 2/3 of the cabinet + the ERG, is not going to carry No Deal through Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: 2/3 of the cabinet + the ERG, is not going to carry No Deal through Parliament. It's the default though, there's no way of stopping it if May goes down this route and the EU don't drop Tusks conditions on extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Seems to be a feeling amongst journalist that May is increasingly resigned to no deal (if MV3 falls) and that 2/3 of cabinet agree. So the lunatics have won then? You must feel such a proud tory as you watch Nissan say sayonara. The very reason you originally said you'd vote Remain all those years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5183 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Renton said: It's the default though, there's no way of stopping it if May goes down this route and the EU don't drop Tusks conditions on extension. Why couldn't Parliament bypass the executive and vote for an long extension subject to a full review of Brexit options or potentially a second referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21813 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Renton said: It's the default though, there's no way of stopping it if May goes down this route and the EU don't drop Tusks conditions on extension. some cunt is going to blink first. there is no way she's taking us out without a deal. it's a desperate, empty threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Why couldn't Parliament bypass the executive and vote for an long extension subject to a full review of Brexit options or potentially a second referendum? I don't think the executive can be bypassed that way because they have control over binding motions. She has to be removed with vote of no confidence, can that happen? Even then there isn't time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: some cunt is going to blink first. there is no way she's taking us out without a deal. it's a desperate, empty threat If it's a binary choice between revoking A50, which may need a parliamentary vote, or no deal, which doesn't, what will she choose. I am almost certain she will go no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21813 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Renton said: If it's a binary choice between revoking A50, which may need a parliamentary vote, or no deal, which doesn't, what will she choose. I am almost certain she will go no deal. it would destroy her "legacy" and her party. she's bluffing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21813 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 i hope. a lot of people who i work with, and whose opinions i value, are seriously starting to shit it over the prospects of no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: it would destroy her "legacy" and her party. she's bluffing Eh? She would be fulfilling the will of the people in her eyes with plenty of handy scapegoats when it doesn't go swimmingly, including the people (they voted for it). Withdraw A50 however, that's the end of the party. You honestly believe she will revoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I don't think she's got a cat in hells chance of getting MV3 through either after last night. Massive chance of no deal now. And ironically, a hard border in Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just listen to her comments of a few minutes ago. She ain't revoking A50 under any circumstances imo. She's fucking insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5183 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Looks like Renton increasingly has the right of it... She's actually going to plunge us into No Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21813 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Renton said: Eh? She would be fulfilling the will of the people in her eyes with plenty of handy scapegoats when it doesn't go swimmingly, including the people (they voted for it). Withdraw A50 however, that's the end of the party. You honestly believe she will revoke? No deal will destroy the country and the Tory party for decades to come, as well as the reputation of the leader who oversaw it. I don't think she wants that as a legacy, no. Edited March 21, 2019 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44396 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Check out @BethRigby’s Tweet: Fuck this nutty bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21310 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: No deal will destroy the country and the Tory party for the decades and the reputation of the leader who oversaw it. I don't think she wants that as a legacy, no. Short term, no deal is her better option. Long term it isn't, young people will never forgive the tories. She will go for the short term win, she always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44396 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Mind, at this stage they all have to claim she'll go no deal cos it increases the chances of her deal getting through. It's beyond disgraceful that these cunts would dare hang this over us though. This should be the end of them (it won't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5183 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Mind, at this stage they all have to claim she'll go no deal cos it increases the chances of her deal getting through. It's beyond disgraceful that these cunts would dare hang this over us though. This should be the end of them (it won't). I think there is some of this going on in truth - she's got the EU to come forward and start saying it's her deal or No Deal now as well. This really is now Project Fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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