Renton 21643 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Bercow's picked some good ammendments. Caroline Flint can fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The Wollaston amendment doesn’t pass without Labour whips and even that would be no guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Sometimes you have to just hold your hands up and admit you were totally wrong about Liam Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, ewerk said: The Wollaston amendment doesn’t pass without Labour whips and even that would be no guarantee. But, but they could have forced a pv at any time surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, NJS said: But, but they could have forced a pv at any time surely? No one has ever said that on here though, have they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 My preference now would be a long delay followed by a GE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: No one has ever said that on here though, have they? It's a common view in the outside world (especially the fbpe crowd) - see the splitters and specifically Soubry the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 No one can say anything with certainty in politics at the moment but that chances are that if Corbyn had accepted the PV at conference and given it his full throated support then we’d be a damn sight closer to having a PV than we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: My preference now would be a long delay followed by a GE. Nobody cares, mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, ewerk said: Nobody cares, mate. And yet you are forever asking me questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Only to let you make a cunt out of yourself. How did you not get that? Edited March 14, 2019 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Labour not backing the PV amendment and the PV campaign encouraging others not to back it. Someone didn't get their ducks in a row before pulling the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) So forgive my ignorance, but is it not that by attaching a PV ammendment to this extension bill, there is a risk they will both fail? It needs to be an iterative process to maximise chances of success, as being shown this weeks where it has been stepwise. I may be wrong like because I find the Westminster aspect of this baffling. Although if you vote for Wallaston, I guess that implies you would vote for the extension with the ammendment if it passed? Confused myself again. Edited March 14, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Well, no. If the amendment passed then it would be nearly certain that the bill also passed providing there was nothing else too toxic attached to the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Fosters shat her knickers by the sounds of it. May is a genius. Edited March 14, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Well, no. If the amendment passed then it would be nearly certain that the bill also passed providing there was nothing else too toxic attached to the bill. Aye, I edited my thought process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Renton said: Fosters shat her knickers by the sounds of it. May is a genius. Makes little difference. Still far to many ERG’ers who will vote it down and no sign whatsoever of the Labour leavers showing up in any meaningful numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Quote It is playing with fire to suggest we can settle the defining question of our age, affecting every aspect of our lives, communities and the future of the planet, through a referendum that large numbers passionately believe is illegitimate. Lisa Nandy there, talking about a second referendum. The lack of spine shown by some in Labour is scandalous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Makes little difference. Still far to many ERG’ers who will vote it down and no sign whatsoever of the Labour leavers showing up in any meaningful numbers. They will all shit their pants too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: Lisa Nandy there, talking about a second referendum. The lack of spine shown by some in Labour is scandalous. Makes no sense either. The first referendum has already been proven to be illegitimate. And future of the planet? Is this some even more delusional belief about how important we are coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Renton said: They will all shit their pants too. Dont think so, there’s quite a few that are just happy to keep on fighting the”cause” and really have no ther way of having any meaning in Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9803 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I am sorry for my ignorance, but watching it in utter disbelief your parliamentary proceedings seem hilarious tbh. The way everything is handled and going on doesn’t fill me with any confidence you will ever find a sensible solution for your mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30668 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 It's the mother of parliaments, thank you very much. You can stick your Reichstag up your arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Mind you, old mothers do tend to go senile and stink of piss, amirite? Edited March 14, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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