Andrew 4757 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Isegrim said: Working abroad under the EU freedom of movement is totally different to the potential obstacles you face in all other countries, not to mention the easy access to universities but I don’t consider this to be relevant to you... As someone currently working abroad in a none EU country he has absolutely no idea how difficult it was to get to this position. Given the rarity of my knowledge and skillset it was still a pain in the arse to be able to work here for any more than a year (as well as quite expensive) and will require another visa application (and another expense) if I wanted to stay any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Working abroad or even outside the north east has never been on his agenda so he doesn’t give a fuck about the logistics for those working or studying abroad, or those wanting to. But kids will still probably be able to get a summer job handing out flyers in Ayia Napa so everything’s sound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, Alex said: Working abroad or even outside the north east has never been on his agenda so he doesn’t give a fuck about the logistics for those working or studying abroad, or those wanting to. But kids will still probably be able to get a summer job handing out flyers in Ayia Napa so everything’s sound That's handy, no "s" sounds for his lispy son to stumble over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Isn’t Ayia Napa in Thypruth? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: I did say the contribute to the economy but surely even you realise that quick arrival of 3 million odd people has a knock on effect on housing, be that social or private and a knock on effect on services. It it would be a different matter if any government actually planned for these implications but none of the did. As for your kids, there’s nothing in Mays deal that stops them casually working abroad. Many kids do this already all over the world. I assume you didn’t do this btw Right, lets break this down. If EU are net contributors to our economy (including moreso than indigenous population) that means they are positively contributing to our services. Its up to the government to supply those services. Its also curious that places like sunderland have very low EU populations that are not a strain on services at all. And yet places with high EU populations voted remain (remember tubs, EU citizens couldnt vote). So its pure xenophobia. About working in the EU after Brexit. Im not going to dignify that with a reply. You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 fuck the Tories 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4757 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Cheaper labour without those pesky regulations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The funny thing is, the gammons will be frothing, but have to pretend it's fine with them, because its all about "controlling our borders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, ewerk said: There a shortage of housing and public services. Quick! Blame the immigrants. CT, do you not think that your party’s actions are in any way responsible for those problems? Eh? How is Corbyn responsible for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4259 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I work in social housing (building them and maintaining them) immigrants, EU or otherwise are not the reason there is a shortage. Its government cuts to councils and housing providers. It’s their fault and their alone, started with dear old Maggy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, strawb said: I work in social housing (building them and maintaining them) immigrants, EU or otherwise are not the reason there is a shortage. Nice that you agree with what I said above. “But to think the arrival of some 3 million plus people hasn’t had an adverse effect on housing or services is just daft. That’s obviously not their fault”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Pub night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Nice that you agree with what I said above. “But to think the arrival of some 3 million plus people hasn’t had an adverse effect on housing or services is just daft. That’s obviously not their fault”. If there weren’t so many sick people then our NHS wouldn’t be in such difficulties. That’s obviously not their fault. Vote yes in the referendum for compulsory euthanasia at 65. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4259 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Nice that you agree with what I said above. “But to think the arrival of some 3 million plus people hasn’t had an adverse effect on housing or services is just daft. That’s obviously not their fault”. Cognitive dissonance you fat spastic 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renton 21627 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Well done @Christmas Tree , well done. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/22/north-east-england-will-be-hit-hardest-by-no-deal-brexit-says-cbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Renton said: Well done @Christmas Tree , well done. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/22/north-east-england-will-be-hit-hardest-by-no-deal-brexit-says-cbi “The analysis from the CBI, which had argued for MPs to support Theresa May’s Brexit plan”. Hope you’ve emailed your MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 12 hours ago, ewerk said: If there weren’t so many sick people then our NHS wouldn’t be in such difficulties. That’s obviously not their fault. Vote yes in the referendum for compulsory euthanasia at 65. The NHS gets by, housing isn’t. That’s we we sky high house prices, sky high private rents, houses partitioned off to squeeze several families in and record number of adults having to live with their parents. If you want to drastically ramp up immigration then you either make sure services can cope or you delay. Ofcourse a lot of EU countries had the good sense to delay, but not Blair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: “The analysis from the CBI, which had argued for MPs to support Theresa May’s Brexit plan”. Hope you’ve emailed your MP May's WA just delays this. She's looking for an FTA which as I've explained no numerous occasions is nearly as bad for the NE as no deal, according to those pesky experts. Now I know you want to blame everybody else but yourself, but let me remind you, I, along with nearly all this forum, didn't vote for this. You did. Yous said you knew exactly what you voted for. Own it, you turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Christmas Tree said: The NHS gets by, housing isn’t. That’s we we sky high house prices, sky high private rents, houses partitioned off to squeeze several families in and record number of adults having to live with their parents. If you want to drastically ramp up immigration then you either make sure services can cope or you delay. Ofcourse a lot of EU countries had the good sense to delay, but not Blair. The UK, both parties, pushed for expanding the EU rather than closer integration. Personally I've always thought this was a mistake as it happens. But still, net EU immigration is twice as high in Germany as it is here. They have both increased productivity and adequate housing. How come? Could it be their government has planned better than our and is more competent? EU citizens make up 5% of the population nationally and has been explained are the biggest net contributors to our society demographically. You're happy to scape goat them for all our problems though, rather than looking at Westminster. Otherwise, why vote leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: The NHS gets by, housing isn’t. That’s we we sky high house prices, sky high private rents, houses partitioned off to squeeze several families in and record number of adults having to live with their parents. If you want to drastically ramp up immigration then you either make sure services can cope or you delay. Ofcourse a lot of EU countries had the good sense to delay, but not Blair. So again, it was the fault of the government rather than the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Renton said: Well done @Christmas Tree , well done. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/22/north-east-england-will-be-hit-hardest-by-no-deal-brexit-says-cbi Corbyn’s fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 10/27/2018 at 17:35, Christmas Tree said: And let’s not forget that in the event of no deal, The Irish Government and the U.K. have all said that they won’t put up a hard border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Renton said: The UK, both parties, pushed for expanding the EU rather than closer integration. Personally I've always thought this was a mistake as it happens. But still, net EU immigration is twice as high in Germany as it is here. They have both increased productivity and adequate housing. How come? Could it be their government has planned better than our and is more competent? EU citizens make up 5% of the population nationally and has been explained are the biggest net contributors to our society demographically. You're happy to scape goat them for all our problems though, rather than looking at Westminster. Otherwise, why vote leave? Fuck me you are such an argumentative fuckwit 1. You agree with me it was a mistake. 2. You agree with me it’s not the immigrants fault. Could you not have just liked my post This place is has turned into a echo chamber for a bunch of Corbynistas on their rag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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