Europe --- In or Out

[zerosum 234]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:11, ewerk said:

I can't believe that the EU haven't tailored rules to suit you specifically. If ever there was evidence that it's an evil, overreaching bureaucracy then this is it.

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I know, it’s shocking isn’t it. But it’s not all about me 

[Dr Gloom 24071]

 

[zerosum 234]

Anyway. If there’s a 2nd referendum so be it. I’ll go with the majority, and get on with it, unlike the losers last time around lol 

[ewerk 33764]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:15, zerosum said:

I know, it’s shocking isn’t it. But it’s not all about me 

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So please be specific about what rules you aren't in favour of.

[zerosum 234]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:17, ewerk said:

So please be specific about what rules you aren't in favour of.

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I’d rather not get specific to my business on a message board thanks, but you go ahead and keep trying to point the immigration finger at me 

[ewerk 33764]

Well you initially said that you had voted out in order to make yourself a few quid, then you're complaining that Europe wouldn't give us special status on immigration and now you're saying it's because of a specific rule that is damaging to your business but you refuse to give any indication as to what that rule is.

You're all over the shop tbh.

[zerosum 234]

Fuck off man, where did I say it’s because eu wouldn’t give us special status on immigration that I made my vote?

[zerosum 234]

I was simply highlighting how they were prepared to bow to the Swiss, but when it came to the UK- not a chance. Stubborn to us.

[Renton 24282]

I've never heard any Brexiter able to name a law that they didn't like. Confidentiality is a new one like. I'm a bit skeptical. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4311]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:31, Renton said:

I've never heard any Brexiter able to name a law that they didn't like. Confidentiality is a new one like. I'm a bit skeptical. 

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I'm hugely skepitcal

[ewerk 33764]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:31, Renton said:

I've never heard any Brexiter able to name a law that they didn't like. Confidentiality is a new one like. I'm a bit skeptical. 

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You wouldn't know his law, it goes to a different school.

[zerosum 234]

ok, ones which are not totally specific.. but kind of piss me off and have made life difficult for me and others I know along the way  .. VAT rates to consider in various territories and the extra accounting costs that brings .. the GDPR and cookie laws .  I’ll think of more soon enough ..

[Billy Whitehurst 1053]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:38, zerosum said:

ok, ones which are not totally specific.. but kind of piss me off and have made life difficult for me and others I know along the way  .. VAT rates to consider in various territories and the extra accounting costs that brings .. the GDPR and cookie laws .  I’ll think of more soon enough ..

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That’s great, I look forward to hearing of which laws you don’t like once you think of them.

 

You probably should have thought of them in 2016 before you made your informed choice.

[Dr Gloom 24071]

if there is a second ref, what even goes on the ballot? presumably not may's deal as it's dead, ditto no deal. 

remain or remain? 

[ewerk 33764]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:38, zerosum said:

ok, ones which are not totally specific.. but kind of piss me off and have made life difficult for me and others I know along the way  .. VAT rates to consider in various territories and the extra accounting costs that brings .. the GDPR and cookie laws .  I’ll think of more soon enough ..

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VAT rates? Without the EU we'd still have different VAT rates. Unless I'm missing something that's a blindingly stupid thing to complain about.

[ewerk 33764]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:55, Dr Gloom said:

if there is a second ref, what even goes on the ballot? presumably not may's deal as it's dead, ditto no deal. 

remain or remain? 

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It should be on the ballot as it's the deal that our legitimate government has negotiated.

[ewerk 33764]

  On 16/01/2019 at 12:57, ewerk said:

Barry Gardiner doing his best to distance himself from a second referendum. Indicating that when they fail tonight that they may wait and try another vote of confidence down the line.

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Good.

 

[Rayvin 6263]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:09, Renton said:

 

This is @Rayvin's fault. 

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Yeah, some truth in this. I didnt vote for Corbyn because of anything to do with Brexit but I'm deeply disappointed with his handling of this, as i have expressed before.

 

And as much as me apologising on here is a meme at this point, im gonna hold my hands up for this. If i had known Corbyn was going to effectively support the single most damaging thing the country has embarked on in decades, i would have never voted for him. 

 

Labour's stance is pathetic. I was wrong.

[Dr Gloom 24071]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:58, ewerk said:

It should be on the ballot as it's the deal that our legitimate government has negotiated.

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But it’s been rejected by parliament and we live in a parliamentary democracy - surely it’s off the cards?

remain v no deal unlikely to be legislated for either. No deal would destroy the economy.

And with May seemingly incapable or unwilling to ditch her red lines, what’s left? 

[zerosum 234]

  On 16/01/2019 at 14:58, ewerk said:

VAT rates? Without the EU we'd still have different VAT rates. Unless I'm missing something that's a blindingly stupid thing to complain about.

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When you do business in the states (or other non EU territory) you fill out a foreign entity exemption form and then you can just get on with it, included revenue in your normal accounts .. If you do any business in Europe as a EU member, you have to complete a second VAT return called EC sales, on which you need to specify all the transactions with any other member countries. We have it all sorted now, but fuck me what a headache it was.. and it still increases our accountant bill.

Edited January 16, 2019 by zerosum

[Anorthernsoul 1222]

Remember this 

 

 

[Dr Gloom 24071]

meanwhile, cameron doesn't regret calling referendum. of course he doesn't, the moon-faced swine head shagger

[ewerk 33764]

  On 16/01/2019 at 15:11, zerosum said:

When you do business in the states (or other non EU territory) you fill out a foreign entity exemption form and then you can just get on with it, included revenue in your normal accounts .. If you do any business in Europe as a EU member, you have to complete a second VAT return called EC sales, on which you need to specify all the transactions with any other member countries. We have it all sorted now, but fuck me what a headache it was.. and it still increases our accountant bill.

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The EC sales list is a piece of piss to do. It also means that you don't have to pay VAT on purchases from EU countries therefore freeing up cash flow. It's a positive.

[ewerk 33764]

  On 16/01/2019 at 15:10, Dr Gloom said:

But it’s been rejected by parliament and we live in a parliamentary democracy - surely it’s off the cards?

remain v no deal unlikely to be legislated for either. No deal would destroy the economy.

And with May seemingly incapable or unwilling to ditch her red lines, what’s left? 

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And a refendum would supercede parliament's power. It will be on the ballot.

[zerosum 234]

  On 16/01/2019 at 15:25, ewerk said:

The EC sales list is a piece of piss to do. It also means that you don't have to pay VAT on purchases from EU countries therefore freeing up cash flow. It's a positive.

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I'm not arsed about paying VAT. You collect it from the sale and pass it to the Gov. That isn't the issue. Regarding the EC sales being a piece of piss, that all depends on how many transactions you need to account for in various places. But yeah, I guess you know how every business operates.