ewerk 30616 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Uh oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 What does that leave the government open to? I'm losing track of the chaos here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 It would mean that May couldn’t leave it another month before bringing the vote again i.e. taking us closer to no deal. Whether the speaker was able to pick the amendment or not appears to be somewhat of a constitutional riddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I thought she'd promised she wouldn't flake out again anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Believe nothing that leather faced cunt tells you. MPs currently voting on the amendment. It may be a step closer to a people's vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Amendment passes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44896 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Tory Brexiteers fully exposed for the cunts that they are in the run up to the vote. Point of order after point of order repeating the same old shit and in one instance trying to claim that Bercow has a sticker on his car disparaging Brexit. And all to try and avoid a vote in the supposed seat of democracy. So much for taking back control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 This makes no sense to me, obviously it's incompatible with the WA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ewerk said: This makes no sense to me, obviously it's incompatible with the WA? I don't understand this either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4757 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Seems to be consensus that the Swire amendment does nothing in reality, just an attempt to get more MPs onto the governments side. I go back and forth on Bercow but he's been on good form today, both as far as the Grieve amendment goes and in his responses to various Brexiteer MPs frothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 A landmark day: the HoC defying the government. The first time, perhaps, since before WW1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11281 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Renton said: I don't understand this either. I don't understand any of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) The Executive has steered what and for how long the HoC discusses for a century or more. Bercow has driven a coach and horses through this convention which has the potential to re-balance powers between Executive and Legislature. It’s a big moment Edited January 10, 2019 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Technically there was no discussion on the amendment, it was a straight division. But like anyone who has handed their notice in at work he's just thought 'fuck it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44896 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 If the government hadn't spent the last two years taking the piss out of British democracy, he might not have had to do what he did. He's as sick of May as the rest of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44896 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1083038642195566593?s=09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I bet Ian Dunt had a cracking nickname at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 "Dunty"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, Gemmill said: If the government hadn't spent the last two years taking the piss out of British democracy, he might not have had to do what he did. He's as sick of May as the rest of us. True and a lot of Tories despise him and think he’s a Labour sympathiser. But this goes deeper - he has been in his job for 9(?) years and senses a parliamentary calamity unless something changes. The executive has held the balance of power over the legislature since around the mid-19th century, I think, but as Bercow argues every precedent was itself a replacement and so must change eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Watching the Tory brexiteer MPs lose their shit at him was a sight to behold Edited January 10, 2019 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1083290033082249217.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17280 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Meenzer said: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1083290033082249217.html I'd just come on to post that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44896 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Leadsom giving it the big one to Bercow again today. I could not have less respect for that bint. It's like the plot of King Ralph but instead it's someone's Nana getting the job of leader of the HoC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Andrea Leadsom, honestly. Has there ever been a greater disparity between self-belief and actual capability? I'd call her the Ali Dia of politics but that'd be an insult to Ali Dia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Andrea Leadsom, honestly. Has there ever been a greater disparity between self-belief and actual capability? I'd call her the Ali Dia of politics but that'd be an insult to Ali Dia. Tbf there's a lot of competition for that at the moment. I'd nominate Davis and Grayling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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