Ayatollah Hermione 13869 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Today, the PM said "I've done wanged it this time. Whoopsie doodles, is my face red. What a pack of useless cunts I had spearheading this fucking fiasco" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Or do you really believe the PM stood up and lied to parliament today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Show me any link to political declaration The political declaration isn’t worth shit you utter buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Don't think the cabinet is much of a bell weather for Parliament mind you CT. Their jobs depend on May's deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: The political declaration isn’t worth shit you utter buffoon. Take your foil hat off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Don't think the cabinet is much of a bell weather for Parliament mind you CT. Their jobs depend on May's deal. Ive told you what will happen over next few weeks. Massive PR, business on side and possibly Labour backing it. The alternatives: No deal or another poisonous vote. A lot of MP’s (particularly Labour leave constituencies), may decide that this protects a lot of jobs and delivers a lot of what they were after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Or do you really believe the PM stood up and lied to parliament today What are you talking about? She talked in slogans as usual. Nothing of substance. You are so fucking gullible it's unreal. Okay then, so you think this will get past parliament, yes or no? I think you've already answered affirmative but just to clarify (and bookmark). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, Renton said: What are you talking about? She talked in slogans as usual. Nothing of substance. You are so fucking gullible it's unreal. Okay then, so you think this will get past parliament, yes or no? I think you've already answered affirmative but just to clarify (and bookmark). Slogans She was pretty precise about trade deals, fishing, agriculture, FOM etc. As for parliament it all depends on the next 4 weeks PR and what Labour do. Do remainers risk no deal. Do leavers risk no Brexit. Minds will be focussed. I think it will get through but it will all depend how the next 4 weeks play out. How much business, unions, 27 Eu countries support it. Anyway, here’s some reading for you https://t.co/2VM1uqVSrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I'm very happy to risk No Deal. It's what the public voted for, after all. Apparently. Let them have it, I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: I think it will get through but it will all depend...... Cheers for the link. No way am I reading that on my phone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 At last, some clarity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Well finally we’ll be free come 20XX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Renton said: Cheers for the link. No way am I reading that on my phone! Like any of us are going to read it. (Or understand it). Let the lawyers and journos chew it around for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Poor May. She’s had one on one meetings this morning, PMQ’s, the mother of all cabinets, Arlene, Sturgeon and Jeremy tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 CT with another of his monthly declarations that this will be sorted in 4 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Any good analysis of what's actually in the deal? I have to say, going off what I know so far this is probably the best deal that the UK could have hoped to negotiate, May deserves a tiny bit of credit for that at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: Any good analysis of what's actually in the deal? I have to say, going off what I know so far this is probably the best deal that the UK could have hoped to negotiate, May deserves a tiny bit of credit for that at least. I sort of agree with that but it doesn't suit either end of the spectrum - you could argue a middle ground compromise makes sense but the divide is too fractious for that to be accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) It was never really a negotiation, the EU haven't really conceded anything. There is almost no information on what any future deal will look like which might supersede the backstop after transition. A backstop we can't unilaterally withdraw from, and in all honesty probably never will. Ironically the deal brokered is a huge loss of sovereignty from where we were. My impression is, May has sacrificed everything to end FoM. Of course she masked this with talk of the need for sovereignty and to be free of EU law, but this deal shows it was all about immigration in the end, nothing else mattered. She genuinely seems to hate immigrants. She's done an absolute shit job but I am grateful that ultimately she realised no deal was a bluff that couldn't be pursued any more. And she's recognised that, because the ERG loons would be happy with no deal, she's put no Brexit at all back on the agenda as well. Edited November 15, 2018 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Raab GONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Raab leaving on a point of principle involving the very deal he was in charge of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Raab GONE! BAMFU! I heard he was in tears last night, the little snowflake. I'm expecting a leadership challenge today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Raab leaving on a point of principle involving the very deal he was in charge of. Just like Davis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9777 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Raab leaving on a point of principle involving the very deal he was in charge of. I am really struggling to decide if this is a case of lol, d’oh or to be confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Like Davis and Johnson he'll be doing the rounds telling everyone how he would have done it. Completely ignoring the fact that he couldn't when he was in a position of power to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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