ewerk 30616 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Still can't see the DUP going for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 11:16, Christmas Tree said: Why on Earth tie ourselves to a sinking ship. I'm sure the EU are asking themselves the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Since we lost a few days' worth of posts thanks to Ant, let's make sure this is repeated for posterity: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Nonsense, it was agreed weeks ago. Wasn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, ewerk said: Nonsense, it was agreed weeks ago. Wasn't it? Ofcourse, but not everybody knows this is just theatrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Nice of the Tory party to add to the theatrics by playing the bumbling party whose own cabinet still hasn't agreed a position on the key remaining element of the agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: Nice of the Tory party to add to the theatrics by playing the bumbling party whose own cabinet still hasn't agreed a position on the key remaining element of the agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 A deal’s been ‘imminent’ for almost as long as Bob Hope spent at death’s door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 All sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Election time baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Election time baby! Scottish Parliament backs People’s Vote on final Brexit deal The Scottish Parliament has backed holding a public vote on the final terms of the Brexit deal. Holyrood voted 66 to 28 in favour of a People’s Vote after it was put forward in a Liberal Democrat amendment to a government motion during a chamber debate on the Brexit threat to international scientific research in Scotland. The SNP and Greens backed the Lib Dems in the face of Conservative opposition and 21 MSPs abstained. Liberal Democrat MSP Tavish Scott, who tabled the motion, highlighted many in Scotland’s higher education sector want a right to vote, including the 23 senior figures from Aberdeen, Edinburgh and St Andrews universities who signed an open letter warning of the consequences of Brexit and calling for a People’s Vote. He said: “There appears no obvious upside to dragging the UK and Scotland’s higher education sector out of the EU, that is why so many in this sector want a right to vote on whatever cobbled-up negotiation appears out of London and Brussels. This Parliament should speak for our university and research sector, and all the people who work in it, and we should give them a right to a vote on it in the future. Higher education minister Richard Lochhead said he had heard of higher education staff being “left in tears” and considering leaving the UK over Brexit, and about universities hiring immigration lawyers. He said: “In Scotland, a country that voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU, we should be resolutely focused on attracting the best minds in Europe to work and study here to help us build a successful, prosperous nation, but instead, thanks to the actions of others, we face the prospect of a Brexit brain drain. “We have to stand together and stop that happening.” Scottish Green education spokesman Ross Green added: “We’re fast running out of time but here is a window in which we can avoid this nonsense and reverse the damage already done. I hope we can seize it.” Labour’s Iain Gray said Brexit has been a “chaotic and catastrophic process”, and urged the final deal must achieve as “close a relationship as possible with the EU”. Conservative MSP Oliver Mundell accused the Lib Dems of having a “somewhat obsessive wish to hold another referendum”. “We believe that this matter has already been settled and that the best Brexit deal will now be secured by ensuring co-operation across all the parties with everyone doing what they can to support the prime minister as she seeks to build a consensus,” he added. “The fundamental climate in which our country operates internationally is going to change, but we have to remember that at the end of the day, that’s what the British people as a majority voted for and the job of the UK Government is to try and balance out those different priorities.” https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/scottish-parliament-backs-peoples-vote-on-final-brexit-deal-883874.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 So it looks like May is agreeing to a NI specific backstop. Just like the EU insisted all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 CT on the money again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Thread from the excellent Tony Connelly on May's letter to Arlene. FWIW I wouldn't place too much value in the letter, much of it is designed to appease rather than inform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 And if appeasement was her aim she appears to have failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 But thank fuck this was all settled weeks ago otherwise I'd say that May was in real trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I am going to thoroughly enjoy watching this government come apart at the seams. Fingers crossed Arlene digs her heels in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 You might enjoy it but we're the ones likely to suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: You might enjoy it but we're the ones likely to suffer. Oh. Sorry then, hadn't thought that one through for its local implications. How will it be bad for you? I was thinking it makes the deal being voted down more likely is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I wasn't referring to NI but the UK as a whole. It would certainly make the chances of no deal more likely and obviously that would be disastrous for us all. If Labour backs a People's Vote then maybe the situation could be saved but I think they'll be too focussed on pushing for a new GE to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, ewerk said: You might enjoy it but we're the ones likely to suffer. Actually the NE will be the worst impacted region so ner ner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 That's only because of the spike in fertiliser sales in NI after no deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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