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They haven't released the detail but it's basically that we'll follow SM regulations on goods and agriculture. We'll set our own tariffs but will collect EU tariffs on their behalf, using 'technology' to track what is destined for the EU and what isn't.

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24 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Expect a May u-turn tonight.

She'd better not like. Lots of companies are on the brink of disinvesting now, or already are. If she kicks the can any further down the road how many 1000s more jobs will be shed? It's pathetic people's lives can be ruined to save the ego of literally a handful of right wing cunts. 

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God I hate Priti Patel. Fortunately she's getting a torrid time on QT the horrible bitch. King's  Lynn seem a fairly sensible bunch, only the odd smattering of gammon. 

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9 hours ago, Renton said:

She'd better not like. Lots of companies are on the brink of disinvesting now, or already are. If she kicks the can any further down the road how many 1000s more jobs will be shed? It's pathetic people's lives can be ruined to save the ego of literally a handful of right wing cunts. 

The point of kicking the can has ended. Her approach today has to be based on the feedback she got from Merkel. If membership of the SM for goods and her customs arrangement is a non-starter then she should know this by now.

That would leave her with either no deal or rolling over on pretty much all of her red lines.

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On 28/06/2018 at 14:22, Christmas Tree said:

 

 

Given where May is, a remainer trying to deliver some form of Brexit with no majority and a split cabinet, I think she might be about to pull off a heroic effort. Shes kept the Hard brexiteers in line while she got the legislation through and now is about to fuck them all off at chequers and plough ahead with her soft brexit. Theres very little they can do now and they will just have to accept whatever she gives them.

 

Nail on the head once again :)

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It’s been obvious for some time that we were heading for a soft Brexit.

what a massive waste of time, money and energy. Nice one, Cameron.

 

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I feel like we've all been saying soft Brexit for about a century or so now.   Given it's the only logical conclusion.

 

Tubbs is somehow hailing what amounts to BINO as some sort of victory? :lol:  

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We have a negotiating position reluctantly agreed by the cabinet that will alienate most of the hard-Brexiteers, still isn’t good enough for the remainers and is unlikely to be accepted by the EU.

It’s certainly a step forward and is probably the best Theresa May could do with the hand she was dealt but it isn’t yet a breakthrough in the process.

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I have yet to hear a rational argument for the logistics of anything other than BINO/Norway.  Other than maybe an economic and political apocalypse.

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ie this is by necessity the first step back of a few
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32 minutes ago, ewerk said:

We have a negotiating position reluctantly agreed by the cabinet that will alienate most of the hard-Brexiteers, still isn’t good enough for the remainers and is unlikely to be accepted by the EU.

It’s certainly a step forward and is probably the best Theresa May could do with the hand she was dealt but it isn’t yet a breakthrough in the process.

It's a signal of the direction we are heading in. We'll end up fully in the EEA at least. It should also be the end of the Trans Atlantic bridge. Maybe. 

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I’m not sure that the Brexiteers in the cabinet will accept much further movement to a soft Brexit. May will be hoping that by that point she’ll have kicked the can so far down the road that there’s nothing she can do about. It’s impossible for her now to lead the Tories in a 2022 election.

The main problems with the deal in my view is whether the EU will accept a third country collecting tariffs on their behalf, whether they’ll allow cherry picking of the SM and how much oversight will the ECJ have in all this.

There’s still a long way to go and Theresa May still has to move on her red lines before she’s home and hosed.

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