ewerk 30611 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Renton said: Although I am hearing who I think may be the most revolting person in parliament, Kate Hooey, may be deselected from the DUP, I mean labour party. She’ll be nearly 76 by the time of the next scheduled election. Every chance she’s planning to take a massive shit on the country then walk off anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 521 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Quote Britain would be hit with shortages of medicine, fuel and food within a fortnight if the UK tries to leave the European Union without a deal, according to a Doomsday Brexit scenario drawn up by senior civil servants for David Davis. Whitehall has begun contingency planning for the port of Dover to collapse “on day one” if Britain crashes out of the EU, leading to critical shortages of supplies. Last month officials in Davis’s Brexit department and the departments of health and transport drew up scenarios for a no-deal Brexit — a mild one, a severe one and one dubbed “Armageddon”. A source said: “In the second scenario, not even the worst, the port of Dover will collapse on day one. The supermarkets in Cornwall and Scotland will run out of food within a couple of days, and hospitals will run out of medicines within two weeks.” Officials would have to charter aircraft, or use the RAF to ferry supplies to the furthest corners of the UK. “You would have to medevac medicine into Britain, and at the end of week two we would be running out of petrol as well,” the source said. Concern about chaos at Dover was behind a decision by Highways England to announce plans last month to build “one or more lorry holding areas” in Kent “to reduce the congestion caused by cross-Channel disruption”. It is understood that the papers were prepared for the so-called Inter-Ministerial Group on Preparedness, which meets weekly when parliament is sitting. One official said the scenarios are so explosive they have only been shared with a handful of ministers and are “locked in a safe”. A spokesman for the Brexit department confirmed the discussions had taken place, but said it was “completely false” that the doomsday scenario would unfold: “A significant amount of work and decision-making has gone into our no-deal plans, especially where it relates to ports, and we know that none of this would come to pass.” But the details were leaked by officials who believe Brexiteers are still too bullish about the prospect of walking away and trading on World Trade Organisation terms. Brexiteers accused the civil service of peddling a new version of “Project Fear”. Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader, said: “They are frozen in the headlights. They should be planning for what happens if there is no deal, not scaring the pants off each other. We need people with imagination and courage, not frightened rabbits.” The government has said it would in effect throw open Britain’s borders in the event of a no-deal Brexit. But officials fear the EU, particularly the French, would not do the same. A senior official said: “We are entirely dependent on Europe reciprocating our posture that we will do nothing to impede the flow of goods into the UK. If, for whatever reason, Europe decides to slow that supply down, then we’re screwed.” Disrupting trade would lead to “reciprocal jeopardy”, with the French also running short of medicines, but officials believe that would take six months to have an effect. “The French are militant about borders,” a source added. Davis has sought to persuade civic leaders in key ports such as Calais and Antwerp to tell their central governments that goods must keep flowing. Layla Moran, a Liberal Democrat who speaks for the pro-remain group Best for Britain, called on the government to publish the documents. “We can now see that the government are driving us all towards disaster. What is worse is that they know it too,” she said. In a detailed analysis of the state of the Brexit negotiations today, The Sunday Times also reveals: ■ Davis and Theresa May clashed last week over the publication of a white paper on Brexit, with the prime minister blocking its release until after the next EU summit on June 28. Davis wanted it released by June 14 ■ UK officials said the June summit was heading for a “car crash” because “no progress has been made since March” to devise plans for a long-term deal ■ The 150-page white paper still contains large areas of red ink where the cabinet is yet to agree a plan ■ The prime minister’s preferred customs plan has been ditched as unworkable ■ EU officials have warned May’s negotiator Oliver Robbins that they will embarrass her before the Tory party conference unless she solves the issue of Northern Ireland’s border by the end of the summer ■ The French president Emmanuel Macron snubbed the PM when she tried to strike a security deal with the EU at a recent summit ■ Remain-backing MPs plan to apply for judicial reviews of ministerial directives on Brexit and to use an obscure parliamentary device to force debates on aspects of the withdrawal bill to delay Brexit ■ Tory MPs who support Brexit are calling on party bosses to axe any colleagues who vote to stay in a customs union, saying they have broken manifesto pledges. Put Gove in No 10, says Tory donor The Tory donor Crispin Odey has called for Michael Gove to take over as prime minister, claiming Theresa May “cannot carry Brexit through any more”. Odey, a hedge fund manager, said Gove, the environment secretary, was “very aware he has to appeal not just to the wealthy, but also more broadly”. Sounds lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 No deal is better than a bad deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33219 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 'Business as usual' with a dash of 'taking back control' on your shit sandwich, sir? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 A source said: “In the second scenario, not even the worst, the port of Dover will collapse on day one. The supermarkets in Cornwall and Scotland will run out of food within a couple of days, and hospitals will run out of medicines within two weeks.” Officials would have to charter aircraft, or use the RAF to ferry supplies to the furthest corners of the UK. “You would have to medevac medicine into Britain, and at the end of week two we would be running out of petrol as well,” the source said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 You have to be a moron or a cunt (or a bit of both) to want to go ahead with this now. Although there’s plenty of those around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Alex said: You have to be a moron or a cunt (or a bit of both) to want to go ahead with this now. Although there’s plenty of those around Cue CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21626 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Idiots like CT will just keep dubbing this as project fear. Beaten to it by Gloom. BTW, loved the fact I typed "Idiots like" and my phone suggested "CT" in predictive text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21626 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 June is going to be an utter shit storm for May. I reckon she may resign. Don't know where that will leave us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 The party that rejected Gove for being a duplicitous snake on the grass now view him as their saviour two years later. Pretty much the tories in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 It's not just food - JIT manufacturers like Nissan et al will be announcing they're leaving pretty damn quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 They have absolutely no choice in the matter. Anything other than unfettered access to the SM will make their production plan inoperable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21626 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, ewerk said: They have absolutely no choice in the matter. Anything other than unfettered access to the SM will make their production plan inoperable. Which is why whatever crap we hear from Westminster about not being in the SM is bollocks, right? I keep saying it over and over and over again. Forget the CU, important as it is, being in the SM is the crucial thing. Without being in the SM, we are utterly fucked in the timeframes concerned. It's staggering that practically none of the media or Westminster seem to get this. Ignorance or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Renton said: Which is why whatever crap we hear from Westminster about not being in the SM is bollocks, right? I keep saying it over and over and over again. Forget the CU, important as it is, being in the SM is the crucial thing. Without being in the SM, we are utterly fucked in the timeframes concerned. It's staggering that practically none of the media or Westminster seem to get this. Ignorance or something else? It’s a battle of ideas amongst the cabinet. 2/3 of the cabinet are fighting for their version of Brexit while the other 1/3rd realise that it’s impossible. That will lead to a massive summer showdown where the Tories either come to their senses or we face Armageddon. Edited June 3, 2018 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Lords amendments to be voted on on 12th June. It'll be interesting to see what Labour do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 https://t.co/tbGOAPIoh9 And so the surrender begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Or Barnier knows that the longer the timer ticks down the more leverage he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9775 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: https://t.co/tbGOAPIoh9 And so the surrender begins Que? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 9 hours ago, ewerk said: Or Barnier knows that the longer the timer ticks down the more leverage he has. Nah, arse has dropped and he’s had a good behind the scenes kicking for overplaying his hand. Britains played a blinder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Aye, he’s looked at that Doomsday report begun to feel sorry for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9775 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Where is the surrendering though? it is still up to the uk to find a workable solution for the border issue to avoid crashing out with no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21626 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Isegrim said: Where is the surrendering though? it is still up to the uk to find a workable solution for the border issue to avoid crashing out with no deal. Just CT in full wummery mode. Barnier wants to keep the talks going until the deadline is complete capitulation by the EU. Righto. There is a large contingent of people like CT from Sunderland who probably believe you Germans will "surrender" because that's what you always do. Be thankful you don't have to live amongst these idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Aye, he’s looked at that Doomsday report begun to feel sorry for us. Sshh. We’ve played a blinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 According to the guardian stats panellist on Frankie Boyle’s show, two thirds of Brits are now resigned to the fact we’ll get a bad deal and yet a majority still want to continue with Brexit - even those who regret voting the way they did. A nation of people who would rather endure suffering than admit they were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15527 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Socially awkward, innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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