ewerk 30611 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 https://fullfact.org/immigration/immigration-and-jobs-labour-market-effects-immigration/?utm_source=content_page&utm_medium=related_content There you go, Renton. The key things I took from my quick glance was that if EU immigration has an effect on wages it is small and those most affected are those who themselves are immigrants resident in the country, not UK born and bred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 The devil's in the detail eh, CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13869 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 There's a direct correlation between those constantly arguing with this pudding head and those who agree with VAR imo. Damning evidence and you all need to get on the right side of history sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Research from University College London finds that an inflow of immigrants the size of 1% of the UK-born population leads to a 0.6% decline in the wages of the 5% lowest paid workers and to an increase in the wages of higher paid workers Edited March 28, 2018 by Kevin Carr's Gloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 An updated version of this study, considering the period between 1992 and 2014, found similar results. This study found that a 1% rise in the share of immigrants reduced averages wages in unskilled and semi-skilled service sector by just under 0.2%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 The above are from Full Fact and show what they mean by small. So please fuck off and die CT you utterly useless racist cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17262 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Renton said: It's funny because at the time of the referendum I remember distinctly and categorically CT insisted his vote wasn't about immigration. And now it is. Cult leader has spoken on this very issue this week.. ..do we need to know any more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Believable stuff from a true champion of the working classes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Cult leader has spoken on this very issue this week.. ..do we need to know any more? Is this the same bloke who stands to make an absolute mint if the UK leave the single market? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 So in conclusion to this dreary debate. Everything posted confirms my position that immigration has lowered the wages of the worse off and increased the wages of the well off. Fuck me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: So in conclusion to this dreary debate. Everything posted confirms my position that immigration has lowered the wages of the worse off and increased the wages of the well off. Fuck me. If you read the report fuckwit you would realise they are actually talking about non eu immigration. Edited March 28, 2018 by Kevin Carr's Gloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Another 'great' day at CT towers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17262 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Anorthernsoul said: Is this the same bloke who stands to make an absolute mint if the UK leave the single market? You know, I think you might be on to something there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17262 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Alex said: Another 'great' day at CT towers He gets taken to the cleaners every time He’s gone full “Daniel Hannan” this time though; he’s tried to make out it’s about trade, sovereignty and liberty for years but the mask has now slipped, exposing the true face of just another tired old bigot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: He gets taken to the cleaners every time He’s gone full “Daniel Hannan” this time though; he’s tried to make out it’s about trade, sovereignty and liberty for years but the mask has now slipped, exposing the true face of just another tired old bigot. Aye there are certain types of racism I can respect but this is beyond the pale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 21/02/2016 at 14:28, Alex said: I'm cynical enough to think the EU (and the expansion in particular) was a lot to do with a supply of cheap labour for the richer nations. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) So desperate now he’s mining 2 year old old out of context quotes Edited March 28, 2018 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 hours ago, PaddockLad said: You know, I think you might be on to something there Suddenly the smoke dissipates from the mirrors and it all becomes crystal clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Quote Speaking at a Chatham House event in London, Ms Thornberry said there was no chance everything would have been negotiated by the time of the promised vote. "So the question then is what's the nature of the divorce," she said. "If past evidence of the last few months is anything to go on, it's going to be a 'blah blah blah' divorce." She predicted the government would "continue to kick things down the road", adding: "So the difficulty is going to be with the meaningful vote in October which we have secured, is that what is it that we are going to be agreeing on - so we have six tests, if you hold up blah blah blah to six tests it will probably pass it." She added that she hoped for a general election in the meantime to give her party the chance to take over. That's basically an acceptance of the government's policy of kicking the can down the road. Thereby ensuring that there's no meaningful vote in October. It has already been proven that two of Labour's six tests will not be met yet the shadow Foreign Secretary is suggesting that the opposition will simply roll over and go along with whatever is negotiated regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Aye, done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, ewerk said: That's basically an acceptance of the government's policy of kicking the can down the road. Thereby ensuring that there's no meaningful vote in October. It has already been proven that two of Labour's six tests will not be met yet the shadow Foreign Secretary is suggesting that the opposition will simply roll over and go along with whatever is negotiated regardless. How on earth do you arrive at her conclusion from the preceding sentences? If your "tests" pass when handed any old shit then they're bad tests, for fucks sake I'd be sacked if I took that approach to testing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2018/mar/28/11-brexit-promises-leavers-quietly-dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 In a BBC style interests of balance, let's hear CT's list of things that the EU have rolled over on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: In a BBC style interests of balance, let's hear CT's list of things that the EU have rolled over on. Wanted 100 billion, getting 37 No phase 2 til Ireland agreed... Permanent ECJ jurisdiction over citizens.... only 8 years No bespoke trade deal... Now getting bespoke trade deal. All more important than the Guardians soundbites. Feel free to dig out my Brexit check list. All boxes still ticked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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