Alex 34839 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 It would be nice to have an opposition that would make a big deal out of shit like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44373 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 49 minutes ago, Alex said: It would be nice to have an opposition that would make a big deal out of shit like this Did you see they're apparently having a big strategy day at the start of Feb to agree official Labour Brexit policy so that they can get their stories straight and hammer the government without contradicting one another. Only a good 18 months late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34839 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Did you see they're apparently having a big strategy day at the start of Feb to agree official Labour Brexit policy so that they can get their stories straight and hammer the government without contradicting one another. Only a good 18 months late. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30262 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 They'll still have a settled approach to Brexit before the government does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4371 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 It's poor leadership but at the same time they're completely fucked by the broad dichotomy of Labour voters - working class provincial anti-immigrant leavers versus metropolitan staunch remainers. I know that's sweeping generalisations but it's hard to find a position to keep them all happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4718 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Did you see they're apparently having a big strategy day at the start of Feb to agree official Labour Brexit policy so that they can get their stories straight and hammer the government without contradicting one another. Only a good 18 months late. tbf, that still makes them more in tune, more quickly than the actual government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30262 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 This is the extent of our negotiating so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44373 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 What a fucking arsehole May is. The older you get, the more you realise that this is nothing special or talented about these twats. They're just big enough cunts to THINK they can run a country. That is their single qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34839 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, ewerk said: They'll still have a settled approach to Brexit before the government does. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21295 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gemmill said: What a fucking arsehole May is. The older you get, the more you realise that this is nothing special or talented about these twats. They're just big enough cunts to THINK they can run a country. That is their single qualification. It's wierd. It wasn't always this way. Even in Blair's day there were several competent politicians. Where have they all gone? I was listening to Gisella Stuart the other day. I think she has left politics, but still. What a massive cunt she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15401 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Stepped down before she could get voted out. Coward. </essembee> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30262 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 'Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4687 Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 6 hours ago, ewerk said: 'Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed'. More fudged weasel words. Come back to me when you have the legal document Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30262 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The words couldn't be more black and white. You're being blinded by your love of fudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4687 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: The words couldn't be more black and white. You're being blinded by your love of fudge. They couldn’t be more vague and dateless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30262 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I guess that'd be true if no one were in a hurry to conduct the second phase of negotations and there wasn't a massive countdown clock to March 2019 in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30262 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 @Christmas Tree Even the government's own analysis indicates that the economy is going to shit after Brexit. https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/the-governments-own-brexit-analysis-says-the-uk-will-be?utm_term=.lt2LPX2MW#.mh8Eqwzaj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4687 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, ewerk said: @Christmas Tree Even the government's own analysis indicates that the economy is going to shit after Brexit. https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/the-governments-own-brexit-analysis-says-the-uk-will-be?utm_term=.lt2LPX2MW#.mh8Eqwzaj I was waiting for you to come rushing in with this last night. How did their last stab a forecasting go? Immediate recession just from voting leave, 500,000 job losses etc. More scaremongering. However putting that to one side, Brexit should be about more than GDP. In the real world most of us live our daily lives no differently whether GDP is 1.8% or 2.2% etc. Its certainly not a tool for measuring how well society is doing. I suggest you read read the very good book by David Pillington on this subject. (Not that I’ve read it but he talked a lot of sense on Radio 4 this morning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4718 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 @ewerk Why are you bothering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30262 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: I was waiting for you to come rushing in with this last night. How did their last stab a forecasting go? Immediate recession just from voting leave, 500,000 job losses etc. More scaremongering. However putting that to one side, Brexit should be about more than GDP. In the real world most of us live our daily lives no differently whether GDP is 1.8% or 2.2% etc. Its certainly not a tool for measuring how well society is doing. I suggest you read read the very good book by David Pillington on this subject. (Not that I’ve read it but he talked a lot of sense on Radio 4 this morning). Your entire reason for voting for Brexit was that the UK economy would benefit by maintaining trade with the EU while agreeing further FTAs with other countries. But now it's about 'other stuff'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30262 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Andrew said: @ewerk Why are you bothering? I can't help but toy with his stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4718 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: I can't help but toy with his stupidity. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15401 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 "I suggest you read this very good book I haven't read, but it's very good." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34839 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Meenzer said: "I suggest you read this very good book I haven't read, but it's very good." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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