Ken 119 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, Alex said: Pissed again At this point, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, ewerk said: Oh hey, @Christmas Tree If you told me that the sky was blue I'd have to look out the window to check. Jesus, the European Commission has said it’s not legally binding, the British prime minister has said its not legally binding..... What part of “not legally binding” do you not understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 You said it wasn't set in stone. The EU insists it is. And because your lot can't be trusted they're making sure it's included in legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Rayvin said: I think if I was going to counter this point, CT, I would ask this: If everything you said is true, why isn't the government singing about it from the rooftops? Who is actually saying any of that stuff? Apart from you. It’s the governments stated Brexit position throughout. Feel free to answer the question the others on here can’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21304 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Not only the NI border, but also the 40 billion will be paid irrespective of any trade deal. This is hardly surprising, phase one was never negotiable and had to be fulfilled before negotiations even began. As I pointed out months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Alex said: Britons have had enough of evidence You are extremely clueless about politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Now Davis has pissed off the EU so much that they're ruling out any early trade talks so it looks like March will be the earliest they will consider them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21304 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: It’s the governments stated Brexit position throughout. Feel free to answer the question the others on here can’t The government doesn't gave any clear Brexit position. In fact Hammond has clearly stated the cabinet have never even discussed it. But I'm sure you know this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: You are extremely clueless about politics Coming from you that's probably the biggest compliment you could pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: You said it wasn't set in stone. The EU insists it is. And because your lot can't be trusted they're making sure it's included in legislation. It’s not set in stone, it’s not legally binding, it’s dependent on a trade deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21304 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Now Davis has pissed off the EU so much that they're ruling out any early trade talks so it looks like March will be the earliest they will consider them. The deal that Davis hopes to get, CETA, is fucking hopeless anyway. It doesn't include services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Renton said: Not only the NI border, but also the 40 billion will be paid irrespective of any trade deal. This is hardly surprising, phase one was never negotiable and had to be fulfilled before negotiations even began. As I pointed out months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21304 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, Christmas Tree said: It’s not set in stone, it’s not legally binding, it’s dependent on a trade deal It's not. Davis has backed down today and agreed to legislate it. Honestly, are you in touch with the news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Renton said: The government doesn't gave any clear Brexit position. In fact Hammond has clearly stated the cabinet have never even discussed it. But I'm sure you know this already. Have another go at the question you’ve bottled then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21304 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Laugh all you want tubs. The chancellor of the exchequer and the EU agree with me. We have agreed we owe this money. If we don't pay, we will suffer devastating reputational damage. Edited December 12, 2017 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: You are extremely clueless about politics You don't even realise when you're getting the pissed ripped out of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21304 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, Christmas Tree said: Have another go at the question you’ve bottled then Sigh. Remind me. Just link to a specific question I haven't answered if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Renton said: It's not. Davis has backed down today and agreed to legislate it. Honestly, are you in touch with the news? I should charge you for your political training. It only goes into legislation AFTER the trade deal has been agreed approx October 2018. Keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 If ever anyone needed an example of a classic appeal to ignorance btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4689 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Renton said: Sigh. Remind me. Just link to a specific question I haven't answered if you like. https://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/33906-europe-in-or-out/?do=findComment&comment=1502257 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21304 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: I should charge you for your political training. It only goes into legislation AFTER the trade deal has been agreed approx October 2018. Keep up. Davis today: "David Davis✔@DavidDavisMP Pleasure, as ever, to speak to my friend @guyverhofstadt - we both agreed on the importance of the Joint Report. Let's work together to get it converted into legal text as soon as possible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: I should charge you for your political training. It only goes into legislation AFTER the trade deal has been agreed approx October 2018. Keep up. So we’re going to have a trade deal wrapped up in seven months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21304 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: https://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/33906-europe-in-or-out/?do=findComment&comment=1502257 I've answered that many times, with loads of supporting evidence. All on this thread. Meanwhile all we get from you is logical fallacies on the burden of proof and shut loads of whataboutery. It's up to you to evidence your own claims, not for me to disprove them when you haven't even evidenced them in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34846 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Best thing is he genuinely thinks he's come out of it looking good in this thread today. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 A man whose stupidity is matched only by his arrogance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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