Gemmill 44872 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Whether she was caught off guard is immaterial. This is SO unlikely to be a masterful political manoeuvre. You're giving May and Davis way too much credit imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 You're right. I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 It will be all sorted when Theresa explains the big words to Arlene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 But you said it was sorted last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15526 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 That was before someone explained the big words to him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15526 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44872 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 @Rayvin I think you can stop worrying about this being a Theresa May masterstroke. This was more of The Thick of It. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Good grief... I mean I just struggle to conceive of a government being this shit but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21921 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 We are Europe’s new basket case. Making the Greeks look good tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9775 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 3.12.2017 at 4:43 PM, Alex said: Good to see the BBC providing yet another opportunity for Farage to put forward his views again on Andrew Marr this morning. The fucking airtime that cunt has gotten and continues to receive is a disgrace What a slimy hypocrite. “I voted to lose my job. I am the turkey that voted for Christmas.” He voted to get stuffed but not eaten. I wonder what his thoughts are about EU citizens being forced to leave the UK after Brexit and their pensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44872 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Isegrim said: What a slimy hypocrite. “I voted to lose my job. I am the turkey that voted for Christmas.” He voted to get stuffed but not eaten. I wonder what his thoughts are about EU citizens being forced to leave the UK after Brexit and their pensions. Yep, he's a horrible little cunt. Still intends to draw his EU pension: "Why should my family suffer?" A genuinely stunning lack of self awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21623 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Yep, he's a horrible little cunt. Still intends to draw his EU pension: "Why should my family suffer?" A genuinely stunning lack of self awareness. I saw him on the Marr show on Sunday (the amount of representation he gets is sickening but that's another matter). Anyway, he was more angry and sweaty than I'd seen him before, gave the impression he was hung over. I loved his claim that literally nobody else had done more to stem right wing extremism than him. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He'll see himself as a pressure release then. Flatly wrong though - the pressure in the UK was anti-establishment, not racist change. He morphed something potentially positive into something horrifying. Still though, the man is shameless - hardly likely to come out and say anything genuinely self-reflective. Still fighting his war at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Married to a German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9775 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Park Life said: Married to a German. ..,from Hamburg. The plot thickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He was wearing Union Jack socks so must be one of the good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Isegrim said: ..,from Hamburg. The plot thickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) So the latest state of play is that all the UK will align with EU regulations. So we'd basically still not be able to make our own laws and no longer would have any say in how their made. Edited December 5, 2017 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Always thought that would be inevitable if we wanted to trade with the EU (which we obviously do), although at the same time it makes Brexit pointless (which it obviously is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21623 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I might be wrong, but there will still be border issues if we reject ECJ jurisdiction because transgressions will have to be sorted out at the border. So there will still be non tariff barriers (and much more so if we are not in the CU). Still issues with NI and Dover then. Anyway, yes, it appears Davis has been bent over the barrel and is prepared to accept anything thrown to him by the commission. A soft Brexit resulting in an incredibly expensive worse deal for us. Hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Who could have possibly predicted it would all go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Renton said: I might be wrong, but there will still be border issues if we reject ECJ jurisdiction because transgressions will have to be sorted out at the border. So there will still be non tariff barriers (and much more so if we are not in the CU). Still issues with NI and Dover then. That's exactly right. If we want to have a separate but equal regulatory system the final say will still have to lie with the ECJ (or similar European body). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44872 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Arlene Foster: The Irish PM can be as unequivocal as he likes. We are equally unequivocal. Well I'm glad that all the adults are trying to sort this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 People have been claiming that the DUP are shrewd negotiators. They're not. They're just stubborn cunts. Hence why the NI assembly has been suspended for nearly a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, ewerk said: So the latest state of play is that all the UK will align with EU regulations. So we'd basically still not be able to make our own laws and no longer would have any say in how their made. I like how this post has been edited but 'their' survived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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