Europe --- In or Out

[Renton 21276]

2 hours ago, Rayvin said:

 

There's a report doing the rounds that he was reciting a colonial era, quite inappropriate poem about Myanmar, while in Myanmar, on microphone, to a delegation of Myanmese. He had to be stopped by the ambassador.

 

The man is absolutely an old school racist, he believes in the natural supremacy of the UK. That delusion will feed his Brexit stance.

It's being shown on a documentary about him being unfit to be pm to be aired on 4 on Sunday night.

 

Apparently Johnson is so detested by European politicians that many refuse to talk to him or even stay in the same room as him. Great ambassador!

[Rayvin 5176]

Brexit and the collapse of the pound cited as primary reasons, alongside terrorism, for Monarch going under.

 

More hugely positive news from an industry that seems to be the canary in the coalmine.

Edited October 2, 2017 by Rayvin

[Meenzer 15392]

Bankruptcy As Usual

[Renton 21276]

This from Gove:

 

"“There are some cuts of the animal that are hugely popular with the British consumer, others a little less. But some of those cuts are hugely popular elsewhere, say, for example, pigs’ ears are a delicacy in China.”He said Britain has not been “as successful as we might have been at selling pigs’ ears to China [because] EU rules dictate that pigs, like all livestock, have ear tags.”“Unpierced pigs’ ears are worth more. We will have a fair, competitive advantage – we can sell more pigs’ ears to China and that means there can be more bacon and pork and ham from the other joints of the animal that are popularly sold here.“So by selling more sows’ ears to China we can buy more silk purses for British farmers"

 

https://www.farminguk.com/News/British-farmers-will-be-able-to-sell-more-pigs-ears-after-Brexit-Gove-states_47545.html

 

F U C K    M E

[Dr Gloom 21812]

Don't worry about the city of London fucking off to Frankfurt, or our carmakers moving to the continent when we can corner the lucrative Chinese pig ear market.

Edited October 3, 2017 by Dr Gloom

[Christmas Tree 4685]

2 hours ago, Renton said:

This from Gove:

 

"“There are some cuts of the animal that are hugely popular with the British consumer, others a little less. But some of those cuts are hugely popular elsewhere, say, for example, pigs’ ears are a delicacy in China.”He said Britain has not been “as successful as we might have been at selling pigs’ ears to China [because] EU rules dictate that pigs, like all livestock, have ear tags.”“Unpierced pigs’ ears are worth more. We will have a fair, competitive advantage – we can sell more pigs’ ears to China and that means there can be more bacon and pork and ham from the other joints of the animal that are popularly sold here.“So by selling more sows’ ears to China we can buy more silk purses for British farmers"

 

https://www.farminguk.com/News/British-farmers-will-be-able-to-sell-more-pigs-ears-after-Brexit-Gove-states_47545.html

 

F U C K    M E

 

You do know that’s an old joke?

[Renton 21276]

19 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

You do know that’s an old joke?

 

 

Go on, enlighten me tubs. Are you saying this widely reported story didn't happen or are you saying Gove told this story as a joke at the fringe Tory meeting today?

[Meenzer 15392]

Maybe he's talking about Gove.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3809]

@Christmas Tree is an old joke 

[Renton 21276]

More shit from Gove. The EU are responsible for everything bad and the Tories are the real green party.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-michael-gove-green-uk-eu-exit-wildlife-decline-blame-a7979181.html

 

F U C K  M E

[adios 717]

2 hours ago, Renton said:

 

 

Go on, enlighten me tubs. Are you saying this widely reported story didn't happen or are you saying Gove told this story as a joke at the fringe Tory meeting today?

It not exactly a joke, he's just been very  clever :quotes: taking the old saying and relating it to an anecdote for the farmers he's addressing.

 

So it's a metaphor to be fair to the evil cunt.

[Dr Gloom 21812]

14 hours ago, Meenzer said:

Maybe he's talking about Gove.

 

Well he made a pigs ear of his leadership

bid, so there's that.

[The Fish 10709]

2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

Well he made a pigs

ear of his leadership bid,

so then there is that.

HYP

[Alex 34822]

1 minute ago, The Fish said:

HYP

[Meenzer 15392]

 

 

[Alex 34822]

Lets just list some historical events without mentioning a single tangible benefit.

[Rayvin 5176]

"Young people will be delighted because they have control over their lives" WHAT?! All the old people who voted us out of Europe against our wishes, that was an example of control for young people was it?

 

Man I hate that guy.

 

And those people in the crowd cheering him on (weakly) every time he reels off something from British Imperial History... ffs.

 

The Tories are loathsome.

[Renton 21276]

Utterly pathetic speech from start to finish. Wittering on about Agincourt ffs. Words fail me. 

[Alex 34822]

He's a proper cunt like. Listing military victories when the only time you'd see him fight is to stop any of his kids from joining the armed forces. Have a look at the Invictus Games if you think there's anything glorious about war.

[Renton 21276]

On a purely practical level, this kind of overt jingoistic bullshit is hardly conducive to us getting a good outcome during Brexit talks, is it? 

 

I'd ask any leaver (only CT on here) to put themselves in European shoes and see it from their perspective. Is this really constructive, professional, and befitting the government of a nation of the stature of the UK? 

 

I keep thinking to myself, fuck the Tory cunts, they don't represent me, my peers, and the younger generation. But I am honestly ashamed of the older generation who are uncritically lapping this shit up. They are a disgrace. 

[Alex 34822]

They'll just blame the EU for any post-Brexit mess as opposed to the parties who instigated it. Which said morons will also lap up.

[Christmas Tree 4685]

1 hour ago, Renton said:

On a purely practical level, this kind of overt jingoistic bullshit is hardly conducive to us getting a good outcome during Brexit talks, is it? 

 

I'd ask any leaver (only CT on here) to put themselves in European shoes and see it from their perspective. Is this really constructive, professional, and befitting the government of a nation of the stature of the UK? 

 

I keep thinking to myself, fuck the Tory cunts, they don't represent me, my peers, and the younger generation. But I am honestly ashamed of the older generation who are uncritically lapping this shit up. They are a disgrace. 

 

 

First of all, 7 people on here voted to leave. 

 

As for JRM speech (which I haven’t watched but get the jist from what you’ve said), simply seems the sort of stuff you get at most party conferences in fringe meetings.

 

As for the people negotiating the deal, they are only interested in facts a figures, not what some (non ministerial), MP says.

 

This is where I’m at with Brexit. If you strip away the social media faux rage, most normal people will be happy for a deal to be completed that doesn’t harm them, allows the country to continue to prosper and let’s all politicians get back to focussing on domestic policy.

 

I firmly believe we will end up with a deal that allows free access to the SM, gets round the customs issues and allows us to do our own FTS’s with the rest of the world. This will be good for us and good for the EU allowing them to crack on with their tighter union with the UK constantly holding them back.

 

I would then like some cross party support or a Royal Commission to finally sort out how we deal / fund the NHS and social care and stop it being a political football.

 

Obviously some of you come from a viewpoint that we won’t get a deal and it’s all going to fall apart. There’s no point arguing against that because you won’t change your view until it becomes apparent.

 

The greatest danger, as highlighted well this week, is letting John McDonnel anywhere near the treasury.

 

What we really need right now is a very good centre left government but that battles been lost, for now.

[Isegrim 9733]

20 hours ago, Renton said:

 

 

Go on, enlighten me tubs. Are you saying this widely reported story didn't happen or are you saying Gove told this story as a joke at the fringe Tory meeting today?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/03/michael-gove-made-a-pigs-ear-of-it-over-eu-animal-rules-say-farmers

[ewerk 30250]

15 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

 

I firmly believe we will end up with a deal that allows free access to the SM, gets round the customs issues and allows us to do our own FTS’s with the rest of the world. This will be good for us and good for the EU allowing them to crack on with their tighter union with the UK constantly holding them back.

 

 

No one would be against that result but you realise that would involve keeping freedom of movement, paying into the EU, obeying EU regulations and being subject to EU courts?

 

Basically what we have now but without the ability to influence what happens in the EU and any of the benefits of EU programmes.

[Gemmill 44351]

Absolutely hilarious watching a standing room only auditorium treat that cunt like all four Beatles. Way to show you're not out of touch, Tory conference.