Europe --- In or Out

[Meenzer 15392]

Couple of threads that might help illustrate the point:

 

 

 

 

[ewerk 30248]

But what has that got to do with the EU?

[Meenzer 15392]

[Meenzer 15392]

 

[Rayvin 5176]

Ah great, we're staying in the single market then?

[ewerk 30248]

If we are you can thank us over here.

 

[Christmas Tree 4685]

The Willys are almost flaccid 

[Rayvin 5176]

8 minutes ago, ewerk said:

If we are you can thank us over here.

 

 

Where's that from?

 

Also, this is going to be a monumental clusterfuck  I know it's been said many times, but it's refreshing that it just keeps on proving to be true.

[ewerk 30248]

It's a draft EU Parliament resolution.

[ewerk 30248]

This thread basically confirms that the whole thing has been a disaster thus far.

 

 

[Alex 34822]

Been said before but it really is disgraceful that David Davies campaigned for Brexit but is utterly fucking clueless about how negotiations for it should progress

[Meenzer 15392]

"I only said I wanted the country to be powered by unicorn breath, no one told me I'd have to find any unicorns"

[Dr Gloom 21812]

1 hour ago, ewerk said:

This thread basically confirms that the whole thing has been a disaster thus far.

 

 

 

 

this one is the biggie, as renton has been saying, and is why i think we'll have to stay in the single market and the customs union  

 

 

 

[Rayvin 5176]

If we do stay in the single market, how much money have we wasted on this lunacy just to save the blushes of the Tory party. In terms of what it's cost the country in total, we must be way into the billions by now.

[Dr Gloom 21812]

billions for sure, and we're going to pay more money for a slightly shitter version of what we had before the brexit vote. 

 

[Rayvin 5176]

You'd be tempted to say, if we do remain, that the Leave campaigners should be called into court for indirect responsibility for all of the falling living standards, deaths, poor health developments, etc - of all people who could have otherwise had these billions spent on them.

 

For all this bollocks about Labour being able to cost up what they're promising to deliver, what about all the money we could save by just stopping Brexit now?

[Renton 21276]

1 minute ago, Rayvin said:

You'd be tempted to say, if we do remain, that the Leave campaigners should be called into court for indirect responsibility for all of the falling living standards, deaths, poor health developments, etc - of all people who could have otherwise had these billions spent on them.

 

For all this bollocks about Labour being able to cost up what they're promising to deliver, what about all the money we could save by just stopping Brexit now?

 

It's more than just financial though isn't it? The country is utterly fractured from this. England vs. Scotland/NI, Metro cities vs. Shithole cities and rural, young vs. Old, educated vs. ignorant, etc. We've become a divided insular country. I'm literally ashamed of what we are doing. It'll take a long time to get over this, if we ever do. 

[Rayvin 5176]

2 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

It's more than just financial though isn't it? The country is utterly fractured from this. England vs. Scotland/NI, Metro cities vs. Shithole cities and rural, young vs. Old, educated vs. ignorant, etc. We've become a divided insular country. I'm literally ashamed of what we are doing. It'll take a long time to get over this, if we ever do. 

 

The old dying off should put paid to it over time, so I reckon it'll run for a generation at most. Not saying you're wrong like, they've made a total mess of everything.

[Meenzer 15392]

It's our standing in the world too. Soft power eroding. It'll take a while for us to fully feel that one, but we will.

 

Anyway I'm off to have a German sausage before watching an evening of Icelandic and Finnish music at the Royal Festival Hall, what we built back when BRITUN was GRATE so I'd better be sure to appreciate it, sodomite metropolitan elite that I am.

[Rayvin 5176]

11 minutes ago, Meenzer said:

It's our standing in the world too. Soft power eroding. It'll take a while for us to fully feel that one, but we will.

 

Anyway I'm off to have a German sausage before watching an evening of Icelandic and Finnish music at the Royal Festival Hall, what we built back when BRITUN was GRATE so I'd better be sure to appreciate it, sodomite metropolitan elite that I am.

 

Not bothered about the soft power bit, although I agree it'll make our lives harder. Eventually we can be restored into the EU superstate and that problem goes away.

[Meenzer 15392]

With the euro as our currency, no veto on anything, and a compulsory second language for every student. That'll keep the Kippers happy.  

[Alex 34822]

It's funny how the ones who are happy to sell their own country, kids, family and friends down the river are the ones calling their opponents 'traitors'. 

[ewerk 30248]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41441444

 

It's difficult to know whether he believes any of what he says or whether it’s just bluster to get himself into No.10. He’s again demanding the impossible.

[ewerk 30248]

Ruth Davidson again coming across okay (for a Tory).

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/521174f0-a53a-11e7-9cc3-a3b3c6cd90b8

[Rayvin 5176]

1 hour ago, ewerk said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41441444

 

It's difficult to know whether he believes any of what he says or whether it’s just bluster to get himself into No.10. He’s again demanding the impossible.

 

There's a report doing the rounds that he was reciting a colonial era, quite inappropriate poem about Myanmar, while in Myanmar, on microphone, to a delegation of Myanmese. He had to be stopped by the ambassador.

 

The man is absolutely an old school racist, he believes in the natural supremacy of the UK. That delusion will feed his Brexit stance.