ewerk 31221 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 “We want a fair deal for the UK,” Muscat said. “But that deal needs to be inferior to membership … Thinking it can be otherwise indicates a detachment from reality.” Few on the continent seem convinced Britain has grasped this. “At the moment, it seems like Mrs May thinks of the EU as a restaurant where she can walk in order everything on the menu and then demand that the restaurant itself pays the bill,” the former Bulgarian prime minister Sergei Stanishev said last week. “My view this is creating an illusion for domestic purposes, or it’s wishful thinking.” That's basically it in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15734 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 BAMFU tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5304 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 There are a number of people on the Brexit side who seem convinced that we have the upper hand in negotiations for some reason, and for the life of me I just can't see how. What frustrates me more than anything here though is that both the EU and the UK governments will present the outcome as 'a great deal' by couching it in utter gibberish so that we don't really know what it means. And then there'll be a public inquiry or review 10 years down the line when those involved have either left office or died (basically, have become unaccountable), which will reveal that actually, the deal was beyond shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17690 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 May has already read page one of "negotiatioting- a bell end's guide" and stated that she's willing to walk away with no deal and just leave in 2019, which is what most folk who voted out want and expect. I think the lords this week will send it back to the commons with a clause inserted guaranteeing the status of EU nationals already here. After that it gets interesting, will the other bunch of goons remove it again? I don't think there's any guarantees on that like, and for me that's the crux, do we have a stone cold rule on basically making over 3 million people currently residing in the uk no longer legally entitlied to live and work here or do we continue to be a modern fully functioning society? Will they compromise and do a deal on workers in say the financial sector and maybe construction? I've just finished a big project at one of Barclays main uk HQs, and it's made me think a lot. The two main languages outside of English I heard in the corridors were French and Spanish, and obviously being a major construction project there were lots of Polish lads. MPs know all this, but are they too scared of de selection to fudge it?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35602 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Can't wait for the cracking deal we're about to get. Worse off with no discernible benefits (even to those who oppose immigration). GREAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 May has already read page one of "negotiatioting- a bell end's guide" and stated that she's willing to walk away with no deal and just leave in 2019, which is what most folk who voted out want and expect. I think the lords this week will send it back to the commons with a clause inserted guaranteeing the status of EU nationals already here. After that it gets interesting, will the other bunch of goons remove it again? I don't think there's any guarantees on that like, and for me that's the crux, do we have a stone cold rule on basically making over 3 million people currently residing in the uk no longer legally entitlied to live and work here or do we continue to be a modern fully functioning society? Will they compromise and do a deal on workers in say the financial sector and maybe construction? I've just finished a big project at one of Barclays main uk HQs, and it's made me think a lot. The two main languages outside of English I heard in the corridors were French and Spanish, and obviously being a major construction project there were lots of Polish lads. MPs know all this, but are they too scared of de selection to fudge it?.. We have Dutch, French and Polish members in our team. Two of them have kids born here who are more than 5 and know nothing else. The way they've been described as bargaining chips is cuntish even for tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17690 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 We have Dutch, French and Polish members in our team. Two of them have kids born here who are more than 5 and know nothing else. The way they've been described as bargaining chips is cuntish even for tories. It's gone a bit under the radar all this, there's been a bit in the media but it's not made major headlines. Any idea which way your colleagues think it will go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31221 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 May has already read page one of "negotiatioting- a bell end's guide" and stated that she's willing to walk away with no deal and just leave in 2019, which is what most folk who voted out want and expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 It's gone a bit under the radar all this, there's been a bit in the media but it's not made major headlines. Any idea which way your colleagues think it will go?Only really talked to the French lad who was actually born in Cambodia but moved to France when he was a kid to escape Pol Pot! - he's been in the UK 11 years and has thought about citizenship previously but didn't want to spend the 3k it takes. He doesn't know what he's going to do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17690 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Only really talked to the French lad who was actually born in Cambodia but moved to France when he was a kid to escape Pol Pot! - he's been in the UK 11 years and has thought about citizenship previously but didn't want to spend the 3k it takes. He doesn't know what he's going to do now. I still think there's a fair chance of a deal, but it will depend on Tory MPs outside the major cities letting their heads rule their career ambitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Only really talked to the French lad who was actually born in Cambodia but moved to France when he was a kid to escape Pol Pot! - he's been in the UK 11 years and has thought about citizenship previously but didn't want to spend the 3k it takes. He doesn't know what he's going to do now. From the pot into the frying pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Well my lass is French so this is understandably causing us some concern. However I also work with two Spanish lads who are horrible pricks of the highest order and I'll be glad to see the back of them. Swings and roundabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33893 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Can't wait for the cracking deal we're about to get. Worse off with no discernible benefits (even to those who oppose immigration). GREATLike Face nearly said, I love it when a cracking plan comes together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31221 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 It could cost £51bn to leave the EU. That seems like value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33893 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 That's what Hannibal says when he's on the jazz, not FacemanI was never a big fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15734 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 It says a lot when you find yourself on John Major's side. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/27/john-major-attacks-government-over-approach-to-brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15734 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 And I certainly didn't expect to ever find anything to enjoy about German carnival season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31221 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 It says a lot when you find yourself on John Major's side. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/27/john-major-attacks-government-over-approach-to-brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15734 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 We stuck it to the elites, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22184 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Rees-Mogg, Farage, BoJo, Gove .... sticking it to the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15734 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 It's the ciiiiiiiircle of life..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35602 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 It says a lot when you find yourself on John Major's side. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/27/john-major-attacks-government-over-approach-to-brexit You can tell by the ad hominen responses from his own party that they know he's absolutely correct. I get the feeling it suits them though, Brexit is a way of destroying the welfare state under the guise of 'giving the people what they want'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22184 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) segued into seamlessly from austerity and balancing the books. Edited February 28, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35602 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 They abandoned the targets for cutting the deficit but are still keeping austerity. You might be forgiven for thinking it's all about ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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